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 06-17-2005, 18:04 Post: 112524
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 An Interesting Comparison RTV vs 1987 Samurai

Probably easier to find in the desert southwest where Mark lives. Nothing rusts out there.






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 06-17-2005, 19:34 Post: 112528
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 An Interesting Comparison RTV vs 1987 Samurai

Yooper, you might be thinking of a Geo Metro or similar tiny cars. Three cylinder engine, 12 inch wheels, etc.

The Samurai has a 1.3 liter, single overhead cam, 4 cylinder, carbureted engine. The model that replaced it, the Sidekick/Tracker has an even larger, 90 horse, fuel injected engine. I am not up on motorcycles, but these don't look like motorcycle engines.

I haven't seen a Brat in years. If I ever do see one I will snap it up.

One thing you can do with the Samurai that you can't do with other small 4x4's is the easy replacement of the transfer case gears with gears so low they would make your tractor envious.

The Samurai uses a separate T-case(not joined to the transmission)and quality rebuilt T-cases with lower gear ratio's are available for as little as $800 bucks.

I have no need to jack up my new toy. It has more than enough ground clearance as it stands. I might put some tractor gears in it though.






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 06-18-2005, 06:15 Post: 112535
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 An Interesting Comparison RTV vs 1987 Samurai

This discussion points out exactly why I have the '61 IH Scout that I do. In addition to being a collector's item, it makes a great utility vehicle. I bought it with a full length cab but I ditched that in favor of an original half cab that leaves the 5' bed open. Much more handy around the acreage. I use it to haul firewood, hay bales, branches, sand and dirt, garden produce, and a lot more. And, with an 8000-lb PTO winch, it can do work that an ATV couldn't touch. Just the other week we used it to skid a 1600 bushel grain bin back on a new pad at my in-law's farm. And, like pointed out previously, it is fully street legal. All for a total investment of about $2000 which includes a complete engine rebuild, new tires, and the additional cab.
About the worst part of using this type of vehicle for an ATV is the wide turning circle. I think my extended cab F-150 can turn shorter than the Scout. Newer vehicles with open knuckle front axles (like the previously mentioned Samuri, Toyota pickup, Jeep, etc.) can turn a lot better.






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 06-20-2005, 08:46 Post: 112572
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The comment about the T-case and low gears just reminded me of an interesting truck on one of the jobs we did years ago.

The guy wanted a truck geared down to nothing, but couldn't find the gears he needed so did what he thought was the next best thing.

He converted it to Hydrostatic drive. He put a swash plate style pump on the back of the motor in place of the TX and a pair of skidsteer drive motors (working in unison) out of a wrecked unit on the input shaft to the T-case.

The result was 100% engine power at an infinite range of speeds.

It certainly was creative if nothing else.

Best of luck.






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 02-13-2006, 21:33 Post: 124456
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Just poking around the forum and found this thread. Glad to see some Samurai fans in here. Mine is built for the trails now, so I don't get it on the road anymore. I am looking for another one after I priced a new 4x4 Gator though. JC






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 02-13-2006, 22:09 Post: 124463
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 02-14-2006, 08:47 Post: 124473
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It seems the prices on those little monsters is going up.

Not surprising I guess considering the growing popularity and diminishing supply.........






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 02-14-2006, 10:06 Post: 124478
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If you keep your eye open, you can still get them cheap. Some people don't know their potential. Suzuki Sidekicks and Geo trackers are the next step, but they have IFS and are not as capable offroad. But you can swap in their bigger engines with little trouble. JC






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 02-27-2007, 14:02 Post: 140055
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 An Interesting Comparison RTV vs 1987 Samurai

I periodically look for Samurais and Sidekicks for this very reason. My CUT just isn't the hot ticket for moving around the woods; despite being very manuverable (JD4100) it is just too tippy for comfort in my hilly woods. Also, pulling my utility trailer around is not ideal although so far I've made do. My problem with the small SUV route is not enough cargo room for putting firewood and whatnot. While I like the idea of cutting down a minipickup, I'm not sure I would still end up with what I want. And the UTV's and RTV's seem to be pretty pricey for what you get. After a recent trip to Asia I've become fascinated by the thought of getting one of the used japanese mini (as in MICRO) pickups.

http://www.usedminitrucks.com/
http://superminitrucks.com/
http://www.offroadminitrucks.net/

...and many others. What I like about these is that you can get them with dump beds, heat, lockable cab, etc. No, they're certainly not road legal but then, neither is an RTV. Anyone have any experience with them?






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