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 03-30-2005, 16:01 Post: 109122
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AV8R,
Actually the Sequoia is slightly larger than the Land Cruiser, the LC is all-wheel drive also, more of a gas hog. Since my wife is a stay at home mother, we put on about 10,000 miles a year. Which is why I'm hoping the gas prices start bringing the cost of these beasts down.

YP,
I don't like the fact that Ford keeps lowering the Expedition which I think is for PC reasons. Excursions are cool, I don't think my wife would like it though.

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According to the dealer, Toyota is supposed to start a full sized line sometime next year, complete with a new designed diesel.






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 03-30-2005, 16:34 Post: 109126
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Expand your search to 99s and older. They have the good ole 5.7 liter. I dont think there are any issues with those except maybe a couple fewer MPG.






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 03-30-2005, 19:20 Post: 109142
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So does the piston slap cause any problems other than an uneasy feeling? I see 100,000 mile + Suburbans on the net and Consumer Reports didn't mention anything about it in this years car report.






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 03-30-2005, 19:41 Post: 109146
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I have a buddy who is a calibration engineer at the GM proving grounds. He clains the engine slap was discovered by GM before the engine was released to the market, but was dismissed as a minor annoyance. I suppose that depends on whether paying $35k for a rattle trap is annoying or not.

I have a 04 Silverado with the 5.3. No piston slap, but there is a "clunk" in the transmission or drivetrain when accelerating. It sounds like a hydraulic or control probelm in the transmission, but again, was told that is "normal".

These test engineers need to start having to pay for the vehicles they drive.






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 03-30-2005, 20:09 Post: 109152
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To me this seems par for the course for GM. I have always had GM and I have very few biases. I kept on forgiving them saying "Oh by now they have improved things" It never happens. My 79 blazer was as reliable as my 83 jimmy, 95 sunfire, 95 suburban. The suburban was the last straw and no more GM. They shoved it in my ass till I tasted it. 95 suburban 6.5 td 3/4 ton loaded to the gills. By 60 thousand miles it was unbearable. 3rd injection pump and GM said if I didn't pay to have the tank removed and the entire fuel system flushed, warranty was over. What could I do. I paid and asked what they found. NOTHING. It was clean. Each morning the first person to drive, no matter how gently you applied the brakes, all wheels locked, after that it was fine. If you left the doors unlocked or locked, the back would freeze unlocked or locked and no use of that door till thaw. A/c would give out when it was really hot and then start again fine. Fuel guage would only move between turning off and on the engine. If you filled up and drove 8 hours, no movement till you shut it off. Rear defrost elements only worked partly. It would not start below 35 unless plugged in. Had new harness and glow plugs, no better. When you were driving along smoothly, all of the sudden it would miss a beat. Happened about once every couple days. About once a week when you pulled out from a red light, it would stumble along and not accelerate for 5 seconds. The steering was wondering all over the road. GM said they designed play into the steering and it was in spec. It had hydro-boost brakes, not vaccuum, so when you braked on a curve, the steering would get all funny like it had too much power. We unloaded that turd and got a Mitsubishi Montero ls. 78000 miles never in shop for anything, still original brakes to 65000. Traded it for a VW tdi. No more GM.






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 03-31-2005, 03:56 Post: 109158
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Beagle
The clunk I think your ref. to is called "drive Line Clunk Bulletin" Don't worry they are aware of it I'm told.
These bulletin's keep them from having to step up and fix it as far as I can see? They retuned my driveshaft on the computer?(sounds good) and it came right back. My General
Mess of Crap has been in the shop since it had 900 mi. on it. I leave it parked in the yard paid for and with 60,ooo
mi. and run my 1986 Isuzu pick up I found last year with 31000 mi. on it. run's like a top w/32mpg. I would trade out
of the GMC but it has depreciated so much in 3 yrs. I might as well keep it to haul my stump grinder around summers.
Remember they are "Professional Grade". What a crock of bull! Ask your friend for me if they actually drive these trucks before they sell them?






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 03-31-2005, 07:36 Post: 109170
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grinder, the real kick in the pants is that they do drive these things before they sell them. He drove a GMT-800 vehicle for a year before they came to market. He has been driving a H-3 for 3 months now, with his computer hooked up to it. Every day he downloads 3000 lines of calibration information into some database. The problem is the politics at GM. Getting someone to make a decision to change what engineering has developed takes divine intervention. They leave it up to the calibration engineers to make it work. Nobody has the balls to go back and get things changed.






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 03-31-2005, 08:04 Post: 109171
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I've had a GM credit card for years. Growing up with GM made me think I'd always buy from them. It gives me 5% credit for a GM vehicle with every purchase I make with it. I don't know why I keep it. I passed up thousands in savings by buying a Ford F150 then finally used the credit on my wife's Bonneville. Nice car but two power windows stopped working and three out of five seat belt buckles stopped working, just after warrantee expiration of course. Pontiac fixed the first two but refused to fix the third. What a recipe for a lawsuit, DUH. A deer totaled that car out a year ago and now she's got a Honda accord. What can I say, it's a Honda, no problems at all.

The value of GM stock has dropped in half over the past year. I wonder why?
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 03-31-2005, 08:52 Post: 109177
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I had a 92 Chevy issued to me as a take-home patrol car.

It averaged 10,000 miles per transmission. It never pulled a trailer or operated in hot weather. Still, couldn't keep a transmission in that thing.






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 03-31-2005, 10:05 Post: 109182
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I have a character for a brother-in-law that drives Suburbans exclusively and has about 4 or 5 of them. He pays about $400.00 apiece for them and now is up to about 1979 models. Drives them till the doors fall off, he uses ropes to tie them shut. It usually will take 2 motors to get them to 300,000 miles then he uses parts from the others to keep them going. The paint peels on the roof and hood. He paints barn roofs for a living and paints that area of the suburban "barnroof silver". He is usually happy if he has one windshield wiper working. Doesn't worry about locking the doors since the dog inside gives good protection while he is in the bar. He doesn't worry about power windows since he leaves them down for the entire summer.






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