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3 Pt PTO generators
Ended up with standalone gas for same reasons as Roger. Mine is an emergency
backup idea. Figure I can do without computer, TV and electronic etc's. The
6500 Honda is adequate for furnace, pump, fridge, some stove and lighting. If
it's a long emergency, I can always shut some things down and heat a tank of
water.
My main purpose of writing is to comment on connections. In Ontario, the utility requires an isolated neutral connection. The most common form of
connection is a transfer switch with two 3 pt breakers--one to disconnect from
the grid and one to connect the generator to the house panel. Only only main
at a time can be on.
The reason for these requirements is safety. Apparently some linemen have
received some serious jolts resulting from people with improperly wired or
grounded generators. Most standard panels have 2 pt breakers which only break
the hot lines. It's possible to backfeed generator output into the utility
neutral.
Persons who connect their generators into 2 pt breaker systems should be sure
of their connections and their generator grounding. Better still, install a
3 pt transfer switch even if you don't have to. Serious injuries to utility
workers have resulted from improperly connected generators.
Tom
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I got a stand alone unit about 5 years ago to use while I waited for the power company to run a line to my construction site. It was great then but really payed for itself when I was out of town and my wife and kids were stranded at home during a unexpected snow storm, with no power. I had to tell my wife over the phone how to get the generator going and the house powered up, it would have been impossible for her to hook up and use a PTO driven unit. I keep two 5 gal cans of gas around during the winter for the generator. To keep the gas fresh every 4-6 weeks I just pour it into one of the cars and refill the cans.
I believe the ideal generator would be a stand alone diesel unit that I could hook to the 600 gal fuel oil tank I have for the furnace. But diesel units are expensive.
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I've been reading over this thread, after I had commented very early on about PTO driven vs. standalone generators, and I still hold the position that a PTO generator is overkill for most homes or small farms, and the expense and wear and tear on the tractor isn't justified. If you have a bad storm and lose power for four or five days, why put an added 100 or so hours on the tractor?
Our 5000 watt standalone runs continuously during a power outage, and keeps us perfectly comfortable. The only thing it won't run is the electric water heater, and we're looking at switching over to gas for water heating anyways. And if the power's out because of a heavy snow storm, I don't have to disconnect and be without power while I'm moving that snow with the tractor bucket.
If you're worrying about months without electricity from Y2K, don't. Call your power company and find out what their situation is before you spend a lot of money. Most of them have either solved any Y2K problems they had, or have a workaround. No power company is going to go for months without being able to bill their customers! And if our power company said we'd be without electricity for five or six months, I'd go buy a standalone - a diesel, if I was worried about fuel storage. No way I'd put that many hours on my Boomer just to generate power!
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I also contributed to this thread awhile back. Since then have sold the tractor and moved from Ohio to Georgia. But I still have my portable generator. Now I'm wondering if anyone knows of a conversion kit where I can change my gasoline powered gen to either propane or preferably natural gas. By the way, when either Outdoor Life or Field and Stream did an article on building a small cabin they chose the same generator I bought (but I paid less).
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We are looking for a Generator strictly for back-up purposes. Working for an electronics company, I'm far from worried about Y2K. I think the most that will happen is a "few" angry people, because of an error or software program oversight on a bill or something. But otherwise no-one will be going hungry or anything like that. At any rate, our necessities consist of a submersible well pump, oil furnace W/3 zone pumps. Otherwise, we could make due. I at least want to use bathroom facilities. Plus, 0-20 degrees outside, +wind will turn our house into an ice box pretty quick. Not to mention busted water pipes.
As rare as the event might or hopefully will be.. I always like to be prepared.
Furthermore...is it me, or do power outages seem more frequent in the past few years due to bad weather??
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I agree Farminlady (not picking on you though), if the price is wrong. I built a 3 pt hitch PTO genset. 10000 watt unit for about $850. About the same price for a 6000-7000 watt gas stand alone. Took some work, some scrap metal and a little welding, but it works great. Had a drive shaft from my tiller, bought a splined adapter for the shaft, a couple of bearings, two pullies and a belt. Oh and a little drawing to make sure it all fit. My PTO speed is not 540 though. If someone has a 540 pto they would definately need two steps up or a rather large 33" pulley on the PTO and about a 5" on the generator. So you see the need for two steps. When I am moving snow, I could leave this unit on for weight. It is well protected from damage in the frame. And it's made for outdoor use. But it isn't as difficult to put on the machine as you would think. Also with bad weather in mind, and the frequent power outages that come with it, I have 1000 gallons of fuel to get me through in the tanks. So I opted, with my wife approving, to go the PTO way. A deisel unit would be great(separate) but they are definately to expensive. I don't want gas in my garage, except for the car, so a gas unit is out. To easy to have an explosion. In so far as excessive wear on the tractor, well I bought it to use, and seeing a diesel runs best when it is used the most, I am using this for everything it's worth. It's a diesel, it can take it. In so far as having to big a genset, I would rather have excess capacity, than run the genset at its max output. Then you have something extra if you really need it. I have a deep well, and she still grunts starting that, but that is with the well pump running, and supper cookin on the electric stove.
Bill
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mls,
I saw your message about the generator with & without the gear box for a 13KW output and want to buy the generator portion only. Where did you see the advertisement?
Thank you
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I purchased a coleman 5000W genarator at an estate auction a few months back,
the carb was hanging on the frame by a peice of wire and the motor is shot.
the bid was only 40.00 so i figured what the heck it'll be something to tinker with. i was gonna put a new motor on it but after reading a few of the post i am thinking about making a pto unit out of it. what would be involved in this as for as parts and cost go. i have a yanmar 1500 to put it on and would use it for fence work and work around the barn and riding arena.
thanks for the help.
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Brian It should be a fairly easy conversion, you'll need to install a jackshaft with pulleys, so you can get the correct input speed. You'll need to find out what speed the generator needs to run at so it puts out the correct voltage, if the engine was a direct coupler that may be 3450RPM input to the generator, so you'd have to put pulleys on to go from 540RPM(PTO) to 3450RPM(input/generator).
Hope this helps alittle. Jerry
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Brian It should be a fairly easy conversion, you'll need to install a jackshaft with pulleys, so you can get the correct input speed. You'll need to find out what speed the generator needs to run at so it puts out the correct voltage, if the engine was a direct coupler that may be 3450RPM input to the generator, so you'd have to put pulleys on to go from 540RPM(PTO) to 3450RPM(input/generator).
Hope this helps alittle. Jerry
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