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 09-14-2007, 21:09 Post: 145755
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Question as to trailer and brakes. I have been using a small tiltable 4 by 8 trailer since 1983 and getting a new jd 2520 and will need a much bigger trailer. Looking at the 16ft trailers with 2 axels but will i need the trailer brakes? The 2520 will have 72mmm and 61"cx loader and ballast box. I drive a 2007 chevy tahoe LTZ. I never had any use for trailer brakes but I am older now and pay more attention to safety. This truck maybe the same weight as a tundra. thx






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 09-14-2007, 22:21 Post: 145757
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Nosteiner4me,

You'll have to check with the laws of your State. Some States require brakes on any trailer. Some States require brakes on trailers over a certain weight.

In any case, any person who plans to travel across country while towing a trailer could find themselves in a bit of trouble when entering a more restrictive State.

Here's a list of the various State trailer brake laws, from 2006.

See link below.

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 09-15-2007, 00:45 Post: 145759
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I have towed my tractor on a trailer with and without the brakes. Get the brakes. It does not really matter what the state requires. When you tow a load that approaches the weight of your truck, you need trailer brakes. They improve safety and make towing a lot more pleasant. When some idiot does something stupid in front of you, you don't have to worry if your truck brakes alone will do the job.

re: How about Chevy saying the reason their 1/2 can pull so much is the boxed material used to make the frame.

Actually this was a Ford commercial for their 1/2 ton. The Chevy half ton is a C section beam. But, what is really interesting is that many of the larger Fords such as their Super Duty (1 ton I think) use a C section frame, but I am sure that Ford won't point this out. I don't know if this has always been the case and there may be some larger trucks that have boxed frames also. Its just not consistent.

The full size 1/2 ton trucks seem like a pretty good value, but for my money; if you are towing a 3/4 or 1 ton size is quite a bit better. I have been using 3/4 ton trucks for the past 15 years.






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 09-15-2007, 06:05 Post: 145763
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I don't know if the Govt. truth in advertising thing came into play with this or not, but the mileage claims in the sales literature are a lot closer to real world than they used to be. My example is my 07 Silverado half ton, smallest V8, automatic, 4X4, standard cab. Sometimes when I'm in a hurry I forget, but 90% of the time I check the mileage on every fillup. I traded in an 04 Silverado basicly identical except it was a five speed manual. After almost 10K miles the 07 is a defintie 2 MPG gain over the 04. One tank did top 21 by a whisker on a 300 mile trip, but normal short trip is 18.5/19 average over the long term. Pulling even a medium duty trailer takes it down to 15/16. So my point being they didn't fib to me on this one, I hope the next pickup gains another 2 or more MPG. Overall the best pickup I've ever owned. Frank.






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 09-15-2007, 09:47 Post: 145771
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By and large most trucks are getting lighter. Thinner sheet metal, thinner glass and lighter materials translate to better mileage. Part of it is improved mechanical efficiency and better gearing but a lot of it has to come from weight savings. Frank, do you know the vehicle weights of your old and new Silverado?






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 09-15-2007, 12:51 Post: 145778
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This is an interesting thread.
My son graduated from Michigan State U. a year and a half ago.
Could not get a job in the car Capital of the world (Michigan) but Toyota hired him for body assembly engineering.
He could get a very good discount on a new Tundra or any car he wanted. (He worked setting up the Tundra plant in Texas and starting the new line in Indiana)
He took his Toyota income and bought a 2007 Silverado.
He believes it is much more comfortable and advanced over the Tundra. Fit and finish is equal in quality and could see no reason to buy the Toyota over the Chevy. He also wanted to keep his money in the US. He has been very happy with it so far.
I just cant figure out why we have to tow the boat to lake Michigan with my truck every time??? Maybe it's the cost of gas. (driver pays)






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 09-15-2007, 13:58 Post: 145782
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KW, No I don't know the weight of either pickup. Mine is the last of the old design 07 Silverado, so their new series 07's likely have a lighter weight by the methods you describe. A friend of mine has the new design 07 with the engine that shuts off part of the cylinders under light load. He has never bragged or complained about his mileage, so I really don't have any feedback. One of his main concerns when buying a new pickup is to have the heaviest duty four door with every possible bell and whistle that Chevy can come up with, so he is hauling around a lot of power consuming do dads that I don't have, or even want, mine still has crank windows, but it gets me there just fine anyhow. Frank.






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 12-03-2008, 11:59 Post: 158331
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Well, I have an '05 Tundra double cab Limited with the tow package, and I use it for hauling empty trailers and groceries. Not much good for anything else.
Light went out on the HomeLink, $650.00 for the module (can't just replace a bulb).
Factory recall on the front suspension lower ball joints.
Warranty on the left rear wheel bearing.
And now it's a white elephant - Toyota discontinued the Tundra (who would buy a full sized 1/2 ton truck with five -lug wheels anyway).






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 12-03-2008, 14:04 Post: 158337
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Two questions: What is a homelink?

And where did you get the info that the Tundra line is discontinued? It is actively promoted on the Toyota web site.

As far as the useless comments..... I regularly tow 6000+ pounds with my 2002 Tundra with no problems.

My comments on the newer Tundra had to do with the reality that the actual loaded tow specs are probably closer to 9000 pounds, which is still a very good tow package.

Better than the 7000 pounds my '02 is rated for.






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 12-03-2008, 14:32 Post: 158338
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Drankin; I'm sure it was a Toyota pickup that passed me on the fourlane, on the side of the box toward the rear it said "TURD", is that for real or did some disgruntled Toyota owner put that there? I don't keep up much on import cars and pickups.




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