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 11-09-2007, 17:55 Post: 148048
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Kleinchris,

I thought the same thing about those log splitters! Holy Cow! I want one!

As for the jacks on the back of the dump trailer......chalk that idea up to me being stupid again. Yep....that's a plan for the trash pile. Thanks for saving me a big headache....er, backache, Murf.

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 11-10-2007, 20:53 Post: 148087
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I used to be a proponet of make-it-yourself trailers. The rising cost of materials sometimes just doesn't make it economically feasible.

What really changed my mind was there started to be a rash of failures resulting in deaths due to improper design and build---or even improper use--leading to multi-million jury awards. My buddy was involved in one such case two years ago (one of three parties---his part was $980,000) as he's (was) a trailer dealer. But he wasn't insured for "manufacturing" a drop ramp that he made on a trailer that he didn't even sell that came off a truck and killed a family and was sued. The truck was a landscaper who had a 2" ball for a trailer that was 2-5/16".

I realize where I live near Detroit is very litigous and that is backed up by very---nay extremely---enforced MDOT and USDOT laws. Some of our cities have specially certified DOT officers for their "money grab" as we call it. Not everyone has the "luxury" of Big Brother watching out for us I understand. But just a word to the wise that when you start making stuff that is used on public roads you accept sooooooo much liability by trying to save a would-be dollar or two. And insurance companies look for every weasely way out they can not to cover a claim.

But I'm jis' sayin'.






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 11-13-2007, 08:39 Post: 148173
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For bulk materials in my pick-up (Ram 2500) I have been using a Loadhandler for years. Fabulous item. It's a drag sheet on a crank that mounts on the tailgate. I've gone up to 3000 lbs of gravel with this and just crank it off where I want it, but it's great for firewood, demolition debris, and even for furniture (just pull the stuff to the edge of the tailgate and then lift off). Costs about $120. Have only replaced the sheet itself once in about 8 years and that's cheap and easy too.






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 11-13-2007, 09:17 Post: 148179
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What happens with the wheel wells and the product pulling pulled out?






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 11-13-2007, 09:31 Post: 148184
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As EW mentioned, there are many people out there who are just looking for a reason to sue or make an insurance claim.

Pretty much everywhere now there is a basic principle of law that is pretty hard to argue, that is if something were "properly" made it would not fall apart, period. So if it does break or fall apart it could not have been from misuse or abuse, it must just be shoddy materials and or workmanship.

It's sort of like an accident, it doesn't matter what happened, if somebody gets rear-ended, the last guy that couldn't stop in time is automatically guilty, if only of following to close.

My company fabricates a lot of our own equipment and because of that we have a special, separate, insurance rider just to cover the potential liability for an additional $10 million, just so that the insurance company can't say "we didn't know you built it, you're not covered".

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 11-13-2007, 09:33 Post: 148185
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I have pork chop side boxes that keep the material from falling out in front of the wheel wells. In the back, there's always some hand clean-up. The sheet just fits between the wells, but even 3000 lbs of gravel, which is about the limit because that weight is hard to crank, can be laid right down the middle with very little spillover. They do it fine with the big loaders at the pit I use. If I were moving gravel every day, I'd get a dump. But this thing has been invaluable for me: bark mulch, wood chips, brush, etc.






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 11-13-2007, 14:57 Post: 148198
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Candoarms, problem with your rig built for light weight bulky loads...along comes a load that is heavy and the rig is used and then...it is borrowed or sold to someone who does not know how light weight the rig is.

The other day I sent my wife to pick up some stones (man made). Ones we had used before may have weighed like 5 pounds. Did not realize the new better stones were in excess of 20 pounds. Want to know how my pick up looked with about 60% of the load on it? Like it was headed to the moon. The bed was far from full. BTW, just how much does the sheet rock you use there weigh? Do you sentcil the weight limit on the side? Guess that might work. kt






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