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 01-03-2012, 10:21 Post: 181864
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Moving equipment on flatbeds was the norm around here for a very long time.

Every farm equip. dealer had a sort of loading dock in the yard, usually a 3-sided affair made out of old railway ties or concrete and back-filled with earth that formed a ramp at truck bed height such that you could drive right up onto or off of a truck deck.

Most farms had them too, that way you could load or unload a truck very easily.

If all you want to do is move equip. back & forth to a dealer, see if they have a 'dock' then build one of your own.



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 01-03-2012, 12:20 Post: 181867
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There's a video on YouTube showing a bobcat self-loading on a flat bed truck with NO ramps. What the guy does is raise the loader about 3/4 the way, go forward and stop quickly causing the rear to raise doing a reverse wheely. Then he backs up--- still doing a wheely--- and gets the rear tires to grab the bed of the truck. Now he tilts the bucket down and lowers the loader raising the front of the bobcat. Then he drives backward more with the bucket dragging on the ground and the front tires grab... and he's loaded. I think getting down the same way would be suicidal!
Also on YouTube there's video of a TLB self loading itself onto a railcar from the ground with no ramps just using the loader bucket and hoe. One more video shows a fullsize excavator stairsstepping 2 platforms to drive into a railcar using some of the same procedure the bobcat did.






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 01-03-2012, 16:42 Post: 181871
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There's all sorts of crazy ways to do it.

A guy near here loaded a full size TLB on a step deck tractor trailer daily for years without ramps. He did like Jeff described, using the FEL to raise the front wheels up to deck height (~40" high) then backed the truck up until the front wheels were on the trailer, then used the backhoe to raise the rear wheels up and shove it forward onto the deck too.

I couldn't believe he thought that was a better way than just getting ramps or a proper trailer.


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 01-03-2012, 17:22 Post: 181872
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When is I was down sout' for Katrina, I was preparing for the day's trash picking-up duties on the crew I was with. We were using a flat bed semi trailer with a power beavertail ramp. The large excavator was already loaded and they were preparing for my skid steer to be loaded behind it. So I'm sitting about 3/4 the way on the beavertail when all of a sudden the dumba----s owner/driver flips the levers to raise the beavertail. I blew my horn like crazy and he still raised it! I fell off the beavertail and I ended up looking at the sky! So it goes to show even with purpose-built ramps you can still get hurt.






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 01-03-2012, 17:51 Post: 181874
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Kenny I just checked craigslist in Charlotte (forgot where you live exactly). There are all kinds of rollback trucks listed. If you search, use "rollback", not "roll back".






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 01-06-2012, 16:55 Post: 181927
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I really believe I am correct but want to be 100% sure for don't want to support my local mounties from missing this:

I take the GVWR and subtract the NET weight and that gives me the amount of load it is legal for. That is all of the load, people and cargo. Right?

On the simple side of this, when a company says this is a ONE TON truck is that suppose to be cargo capacity? Think Ford calls their 350 a 3/4 ton truck and their 450 a 1 ton truck. Thought GMC did same with their 2500 and 3500 series and then had a Chevy Commerical truck salesman tell ask me what year are we talking about. He went on to say with Chevy they dropped the GVWR of the 3500 when the 4500 came out to be able to sell the 4500 series. So that means the model really means nothing in true capacity?

OK EW this is right up you line to splain.






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 01-07-2012, 09:40 Post: 181934
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Uhhhh I dunno. You got me. My 2500 Ram is a 3/4 ton dats all I knows.






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 01-07-2012, 10:33 Post: 181935
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My 1975 Dodge one ton "SHORT" wheelbase was real easy to turn around being a short wheelbase but if you put much in the box the front tires seldom were on the road.
I never knew if the tonner really had a heavier frame and all that or just a dual wheel equiped rear axle.
It was a tough old bird, almost always overloaded, ran till 2004 or 5, till it died. I placed an ad in the local farm paper that read;

FS; 75 Dodge toner box and hoist DOES NOT RUN, $1,500.00

I didn't think I'd get a call, I probably had ten calls. The first guy that called took it over the phone sight unseen. That still amazes me, but even more amazing is that I met the old Dodge Tonner on the road last summer.

P S; I knew that old heap had been mine, I could tell by the dents.

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 01-09-2012, 10:30 Post: 181947
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[QUOTE=kthompson;181927] I really believe I am correct but want to be 100% sure for don't want to support my local mounties from missing this:

I take the GVWR and subtract the NET weight and that gives me the amount of load it is legal for. That is all of the load, people and cargo. Right? [/QUOTE]

Correct, but the terms you (and the Mounties) will be using are GVWR and 'Tare' (often called 'curb') weight.

If, for example, a typical 3500 series one ton truck has a GVWR of 11,000 pounds and has a tare weight of 8,000 pounds, it can legally carry 3,000 pounds.

You will also need to have the truck licensed for 11,000 pounds to do this though.

I would seriously urge you though to look at using a trailer rather than a load on a truck. Getting the balance between front and rear axles right (to keep you legal) can be a real PITA and a truck that loaded handles a big bunch different than you're used to.

As a rule of thumb, we try to never put more than 75% of what a truck is rated for on it, so as to keep things safe, comfortable and reduce the 'seat of pants pucker factor' when some idiot cuts you off or some such thing happens.



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 02-06-2012, 22:09 Post: 182301
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Thank each of you. I played around and found a trailer that will serve my needs and truck also. As always learned something from each of you. Really hard to say but even OLD (yes not Ole but OLD) Jeffery explained something on CDL to me. Seriously Ole Jeffery thanks.






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