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 07-03-2007, 13:09 Post: 143399
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 Northern 7200 watt PTO Generator with less than 20 HP

YammarKE4Fan,

From my own experiences, any generator short of 15kW isn't worth the money. Just too few devices can be operated at one time.

Before you purchase a backup generator for your home, please check the surge wattage chart shown below. If you exceed the surge wattage at any time, you'll find yourself in a real nasty situation......possibly burning out your refrigerator motor, television, furnace blower moter, computer, etc.

As you begin to add the numbers up, you'll soon realize that a 7500 Watt generator is just too small, and a real waste of money.

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 07-03-2007, 13:11 Post: 143400
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Here's the Surge wattage chart for most home appliances.






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 07-03-2007, 13:59 Post: 143407
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Yooperpete,

I agree with you 100%.

Since I have a farm with my own water well, I have to subtract the startup wattage of my well pump. I also have a forced air propane furnace, which uses a large electric blower motor. This startup wattage also has to be subtracted from the get-go.

The freezer and refrigerator should be left plugged in at all times, if possible. And then there's the microwave, television, and a minimum number of light bulbs.

With these few devices, I've already exceeded the 7500 Watt surge limit, by quite a bit.

Not included in the wattage chart are the things that I need most. For example, my soft-plug heaters in my vehicles.....especially my tractor.....the Knipco heater....the heated water bowl for my chickens......and the infrared heater that hangs in the chicken coop.

True.....not everyone has to worry about all of these things, but I'm willing to bet that everyone has something they use outside that is not listed in the average wattage chart.

Not having the tractor available for snow removal or for hauling away broken branches and trees during a power outage, is a real disadvantage.

Like you, I much prefer a stand-alone power unit powered by a diesel engine, as I have a 500 gallon fuel tank which I keep on the place just for my tractor and the generator. And you're right again when you stated that it is necessary to keep fresh fuel in the tank. I run #1 Diesel in my both my tractor and generator during the winter, as I have far fewer problems with the fuel gelling up on me.

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 07-05-2007, 17:53 Post: 143454
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David,

I can't speak for you here, but if I were spend even on dollar on this project, and more than five minutes of my time making the electrical connections on a backup generator, THEN BY GOD IT'S GONNA RUN MY AIR CONDITIONER WHEN I NEED IT.

OK.....It's not my money I'm spending, and it's much easier for me to spend your money, than it is for you. This has always been the case with every item I've purchased. Somebody is always trying to tell me how much better off I would have been by spending another 3 grand on the project. Such is life.

That said, I would seriously consider looking for a used power plant at a farm retirement auction, before I'd spend a penny on ANY small generator.

At a recent auction here, a man who ran an egg producing business sold his 100kW gen set for only $600.00 It was powered by an old 4-cylinder diesel, and it worked perfectly. The man who bought it got himself a real bargain.

You could easily have the same setup installed and operational for about the same price you'd pay for a tinker toy generator set. As the author above stated, I'd look for a stand alone generator at an auction, or retirement sale.

I don't think you can beat the stuff that's available on the used market, especially when you consider the amount of use these things actually get. Even an old generator set might have fewer than 500 hours on it, total.

Keep an eye on proxibid.com These generators come up for sale there quite frequently.

Good luck.

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 07-05-2007, 21:13 Post: 143458
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YanmarKE4Fan,

Up for auction this coming August 11th......



2006 Multiquip KD20-I 20KW Generator, Isuzu, 120/240 Volt Single Phase, 50 Gallon Fuel Cell, Skid Mounted, S/N: A1030104.

There are several of these units being offered to the highest bidder, in separate lots. See lot#s 29-36


Western Construction Auctions Inc.
14150 Old 215 Frontage Road
Moreno Valley, CA 92553


Main Phone: (760) 731-7760
Alternate: (951) 653-1188
Fax: (760) 731-7766

See if you can't pick up one of these generators for about the same price as the smaller model you're looking at.

Have fun, and good luck bidding!

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 07-08-2007, 13:48 Post: 143514
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DavidB,

Proxibid is one of my favorite internet hangouts. I spend a lot of time there looking for bargains. In fact, I rarely purchase anything new anymore. Why? Some of this stuff offered at auction is brand new, without the high price tag.

No.....I don't live anywhere near the place. I'm a resident of North Dakota, and I live about 30 miles from the Canadian line. However, there is nothing that can't be shipped to me, so long as I'm willing to pay the freight. On some items, the price of the freight would greatly offset the bargain. I'm selective in what I purchase for this reason.

I'm happy to know that I've been of some help to you. If I can ever be of any assistance in the future, please don't be afraid to ask. I'm always willing to help a fella out in any way I can.

If you want to inspect the items, you'll have to visit the auction page at Proxibid and click on the "Info" button. There you will find the inspection dates, payment terms, and shipping information.

If you need any help finding your way around Proxibid, just ask. I'll try to help you with that, as well.

At any rate, this 20kW stand-alone generator is a far better solution than any of those tinker-toy generators you'll find at any of the home improvement stores.

Good luck.

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