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 08-20-2003, 21:30 Post: 62282
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 Power stability with PTO generators

This subject came up in the "Receiver hitch for iMatch" thread and I thought I'd start a new one here.

How do PTO generators maintain voltage and frequency stability when powering variable loads (refrigerators and freezers cycling on/off, etc). It seems to me this would be a concern. I know my standalone Gillete genset throttles up and down to stabilize voltage and frequency as the load changes, but I don't see how a PTO generator can do this. Is it even a problem?






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 08-21-2003, 10:14 Post: 62315
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 Power stability with PTO generators

Thanks everyone, I think I understand now. There is no voltage/frequency controller, just a governor to hold the rpms. If the engine doesn't have enough power to handle the load the rpm will drop off, a sign that the engine is overloaded. A little variation in engine speed is normal as loads start and stop until the governor can make adjustments. I can see how electronics may not like the variations in voltage and frequency.

Our genset doesn't have auto-idle, but when it's running I can listen to the engine and tell when loads cycle on and off. I thought there was some sort of electronic controller making those adjustments but I can see how a simple governor could do that job. It's now less murky.






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 08-21-2003, 11:07 Post: 62327
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 Power stability with PTO generators

My standby genset is approaching five years old now. I'm not sure when auto-idle became a popular feature, but I don't recall hearing about it when I was shopping.






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 08-21-2003, 11:58 Post: 62335
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 Power stability with PTO generators

Obviously it wasn't built into every generator made because it wasn't built into my Gillette. And Gillette builds a LOT of generators.






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 08-21-2003, 12:53 Post: 62346
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Murf, thanks for the research and information. My inferior generator was causing me to feel very inadequate So Sad Now I feel a lot better Smile






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 08-22-2003, 10:44 Post: 62447
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Yeah, I wish my genset had that idle down feature. I'm curious to know in the real world how much it would actually save when used as a standby generator. The savings would be whatever extra fuel is required to run at a no-load 1800/3600 rpm vs. a no-load idle speed of, what, 800? Probably not all that much savings. Still, every little bit counts and why waste fuel?






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AC5Z0, I agree completely for standby purposes. I can't imagine a case where our standby genset ever would idle for any but the briefest periods of time, mostly during startup and cooldown. In the case where a portable generator is being used for purposes of remote construction I could see one idling fairly often, between uses of a circular saw for example.






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