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Trading Honda Pilot or CRV for 2012 Subaru Impreza or Outback
Honda isn't really known for getting great mileage on most of their product line anymore. What kind of mileage do you get on the Pilot and CRV? The CRV looks quite a bit taller than the Impreza but, to me, the Outback has grown so much I wouldn't want one. A lot of that growth may be ground clearance though. It sits higher than most.
We have found the Impreza to have plenty of space with the rear seat folded down. That is with two of us. Just had all four snow tires in there for the winter changeover and could still see out the rear view mirror. I always thought that was pretty good for a small car.
Maybe you should get one small car and a pickup?
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Trading Honda Pilot or CRV for 2012 Subaru Impreza or Outback
Dennis, have you looked at the Subaru Forester at all? It's CRV-like with more room than the Outback and Impreza. It didn't used to get the mileage of the CRV but they redesigned it a year or two ago and their latest designs seem to be delivering much better mileage.
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... Had conversation with a son in law tonight how low the mileage on the Toyota pickups and SUV are.
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Yep. My 07 Tacoma is the first vehicle I've ever had where the mileage went down as it broke in. Went from 22 to 18. Part (or most) of that is the ethanol but keeripes, that is crappy. I could do better with a full size F150 but I don't want something that big. I wish they'd bring back the small pickups, the Tacoma is more than I need.
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Ken has no one brought out small diesel pickup? You were looking for one right? I have been surprised to learn Honda and Toyota are not any better and not as good and Ford and Chevy is now in some models.
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I was interested in looking at Mahindra. They were supposed to bring a diesel mid-size pickup to the states. There have been so many broken promises, missed schedules, pissed off dealers and lawsuits that it may never happen. Even if it did their announced prices for a new (to the states) brand, unknown quality, and unknown support network were extremely high so I wrote off that idea.
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That's too bad about the Subaru dealers. The Portland, OR metro area is Subarus biggest sales market in the US. The dealers here are very competitive and have been easy to deal with. In a small market it might be they just don't have to deal.
I've been thinking of dumping my Tacoma and getting something else. The Toyota dealer will give huge trade-in value towards another Toyota but dealers of other brands won't come close on trade-in credit. If I do this I'll just sell it outright and save $2k+ over trade-in anywhere.
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Has anyone been able to sell a car as a private sale instead of trading it in recently?The last time I did that was 2000 when I sold a 1996 Honda Accord EX with a 5 Speed Manual Trans.I think only 5% of the 1996 Accords had stick shifts so it was a rarity.When I search online now 99.9999% of cars listed are at dealer lots not private sales.
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In 2008 we bought a new Subaru Impreza and then sold our Highlander to a guy in California who flew up to buy it. I listed the Highlander on eBay, the price didn't meet reserve but the guy had contacted me before the auction ended and had my email address. After auction end he contacted me to arrange a sale at the reserve price and I didn't have to pay the final value fee. Probably got $2k more on the sale than a dealer would give me.
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