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 07-05-2006, 20:19 Post: 131738
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I want an ATV style dump trailer to haul around our property. Something that can carry maybe 1500 lbs at a time for firewood and bigger than the typical 3x4 size, maybe something 4x6 or 4x8 so for carrying bulky slash. Has anyone seen something like this for sale anywhere? I've been looking for a week or so online and pretty much came up empty. Need to buy, not build, since welding is not an option.






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 07-05-2006, 22:25 Post: 131746
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Mark, that looks perfect! There are no big box tractor stores here but I'll look up a King Kutter dealer.

Earthwrks, I'm having a little trouble picturing how a boat trailer would work. It seems they'd all require a fair amount of fabrication to build a deck, sides and a tailgate. Have you seen one of these modded out that way? I'd love to see a picture.






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 07-05-2006, 22:42 Post: 131748
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Hey Mark, have the fires let up or are they still a threat? Hope you're getting some sleep.






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 07-06-2006, 12:52 Post: 131776
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I was happy to make it through the 4th without woodland fires here. It was nice that it sprinkled a bit Tuesday morning but was beautifully clear for fireworks. Keep up the good fight, Mark, and stay safe.

The KK trailer is $1900 on sale at Northern Tools but their shipping is a killer. I found a KK dealer an hour away that has 'em for about the same price. I'd have to figure a way to get it home. I'm not sure why the KK trailer is limited to 20 mph when a lot of road rated trailers appear to be built a heck of a lot cheaper. Tires or wheel bearings I guess.

The Provonost looks good too. I'll look into that one as well.

Earthwrks, for my application a full size trailer may prove to be too long. Maneuverability is a real necessity, when pulling it through the woods shorter is better.

Thanks everyone for the good suggestions.






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 07-06-2006, 14:23 Post: 131781
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If it's assembled it might not fit in the bed of the ranger. It was a pain getting the log splitter in that bed and the trailer seems quite a bit bigger. I'll have to see how it comes.






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 07-06-2006, 16:30 Post: 131786
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KT, the nearest Northern Tool is several states away. Maybe the Wilco store will deliver it. It's no fun driving the tractor at 18 mph on a busy 55 mph two lane road Smile Renting an on-road trailer is always an option. Anyway, that's an easily solvable problem.

You're probably right about the tires being the limiting factor. They look like off-road ATV tires and may not be rated for highway use at all.

The newest Northern Tool catalog arrived today and it seems to have some other dump trailer options that are less expensive. Some would require the addition of a 24" cylinder for dumping but that shouldn't be too hard since they're supposed to be already setup for the cylinder. I'll check out the specs on those later tonight when I've got a bit more time.






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 07-06-2006, 16:44 Post: 131788
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Living in the sticks I've gotten into the bad habit of shopping for everything online. I'll have to crack open the yellow pages to see if there is a local trailer manufacturer that makes them. For the price of a $2k dump trailer I'm tempted to spend more and get a used utility vehicle with a dump bed. It won't carry as much but it would be much more maneuverable and would give my wife a nice way to drive the trails we are building. She's a city gal who doesn't like to drive the tractor. Just thinking out loud I guess.






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 07-07-2006, 10:08 Post: 131815
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Laughing out loud Dave, that's a pretty cool machine for $2k but it's a little big to take slaloming through the woods. Sometimes it seems a CUT is a little too big!






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 07-07-2006, 12:04 Post: 131822
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The latest Northern Tool catalog lists this Farm Tuff dump trailer. A little smaller than the KK but it's only $650 vs. $1900 and rated for 500 lbs more weight. It doesn't come with hydraulics. I asked Northern about that and they claim it's ready to dump with the addition of a 24" stroke hydraulic cylinder. Shipping is $200 to our door so combined it's about half the KK price.

After getting it here I'd have to figure out how to deal with the pin hitch since everything else here is a 2" ball. Also, need to add the hydraulics and figure out how to deal with the tractor hydraulics that are already used by the TnT kit. After all that time, labor and expense maybe the KK is looking more reasonable.






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 07-07-2006, 12:44 Post: 131825
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Thanks yooper. The hitch sounds cheap and easy to deal with. On the hydraulics I'm wondering if there is a simple electric pump I could rig up to drive the hydraulic cylinder. It doesn't have to be fast - a minute or so to cycle the dump would be fine. The sort of thing a Tommy Lift style liftgate might use.

Edit: Heck, for that matter a manual pump would probably be just fine too. Didn't see one in the Northern catalog.






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 07-07-2006, 13:45 Post: 131829
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I could run it off the power beyond ports too. On those ports I think you need to keep oil circulating so I'm not sure how to hook a cylinder and control valve up to the PB ports without damaging anything.






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 07-19-2006, 11:15 Post: 132372
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Mark, thanks for the links. I'm still wrestling with indecision. The Polaris unit at GI Joes seemed a little small. The 3-point unit looks similar to the Mity Dump I was considering (link below) but the Mity Dump has skids which may be helpful. At this point I'm leaning toward the Farm Tuff trailer from Northern. It would probably be $1200 after shipping and adding the hydraulics. I was about ready to pull the trigger on that one when I drove by a trailer store that had a dump unit on display. I was in a rush and haven't yet had a chance to go back and look at it.






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 07-19-2006, 15:08 Post: 132390
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Thanks, Mark. The Polaris HPD-2000 might do the job. I've sent them email to see if they have a local stocking dealer where I might look at one.






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 07-19-2006, 17:35 Post: 132395
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I've gotta say that Kody at Polaris Sport is right on top of customer service. He answered my questions quickly. Here's some additional info on the HDP-2000 dump trailer he provided.

- There is no dealer that stocks the trailer so no pre-sale examination is possible. It really sounds like they drop-ship them when ordered.

- The dump feature only operates off the battery (not included by manufacturer). There is no provision for operating it off a smaller source like a trailer connector.

- Only a 1 7/8" coupler is available at this time but it sounded like they were working on a 2" that isn't ready yet.

- It doesn't have a tailgate

- MSRP is $1654.53. At this time need to order through Northern or DR. I checked DR and they sell it for $1299 including the dump battery and will ship it for an estimated $99. Northern will sell it shipped w/o battery to Oregon for $1326.

For my use it seems this model has some downsides. I'd like to be able to control the dump while driving forward and this would mean extending the control switch. Charging the battery between uses seems like a pain (it would be easier to use the tractor hydraulics and eliminate the battery while providing dump control from the seat). Lastly, maybe I'm wrong on this but it seems an adjustable tailgate of some sort would be useful to control the spreading of material. The Farm Tuff trailer from Northern doesn't have an adjustable tailgate, but it has a wooden one which would make it easy to modify. A plastic dump body isn't very easy to modify. But the Polaris would be a turnkey solution at a pretty good price. Decisions, decisions.






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 07-21-2006, 21:12 Post: 132493
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I've decided to go for the Farm Tuff dump trailer from Northern. I figure after shipping and adding the hydraulics it will be about $1k total. The price is right, the size is right and it shouldn't be too hard to add the hydraulics. I've got some hydraulics questions but will start another thread for those.






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 08-04-2006, 17:44 Post: 132980
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The dump trailer from Northern arrived today. For some reason most everything I buy from them has a problem. The packaging was pathetic - parts falling off the pallet and no assembly instructions to be found. Lots of loose parts were rolling around in the back of the delivery truck and a quick inventory shows that some hardware is missing. Hopefully it's just the small stuff that I can buy at the hardware store. Yeesh.






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 08-04-2006, 19:49 Post: 132986
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I thought about refusing the shipment but it looked like the major parts were all there and nothing is damaged. Maybe just a few bolts and nuts are missing. After looking at it I should be able to get it together without instructions. It might take a trip or two to the hardware store to get all the parts. I will write Northern to complain once I get a better handle on the problems.






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 08-05-2006, 09:52 Post: 132998
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I bought a generator from Northern too. It was backordered when the order was placed. When it finally came the packaging was fine but they charged my credit card ~$500 more than the total price on my printed copy of the order summary. I complained and they said "price increase, outside our control". When I started complaining loudly in some of the online news groups, a Northern rep called to apologize and they credited my card.






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 08-05-2006, 17:32 Post: 133008
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The trailer is assembled. Took about three hours, one trip to the store and $4 worth of bolts, nuts and washers. Not a bad little trailer. A little minor reengineering was required but she's ready to go. Just need to order the hydraulics now.






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