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 05-20-2010, 09:06 Post: 170945
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 Car Fuel Economy and the 55 MPH speed limit

Here in Michigan, you'll get run over driving 55 MPH on a road with a posted 55 MPH speed limit. I drive these at 62 MPH (I normally drive 7 MPH over)and generally get a line up of cars behind me. On the I-75 expressway it is posted at 70 MPH. Most drive between 80 & 85. I make sales calls with one of my business associates and he normally drives the expressway between 85 & 90. Last week we got up to 105 and 110 for passing several times.

Back in the old days with the 55 MPH speed limits, I drove out West several times. That takes a long, long time.

I don't follow Murf's thinking about not getting the fuel savings when talking about MPG. I follow the GPH in air travel but also realize wind speed and direction is a big factor.

With regard to MPG, you will still achieve the fuel economy even if it takes you longer to get to a destination. Most vehicles with an automatic transmission go through a "Lock-up" stage where the torque converter is more positive. At that speed and above, you achieve better fuel economy until wind velocity drag reduces it. Lock-up on most is about 62 MPH if I remember correctly.






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 05-20-2010, 09:15 Post: 170947
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KT;
I'm sure that "Ticket Fixin" is a national epidemic amoung elected officials. Just the other morning a "Cruiser Cam" showed our own Governor's SUV being pulled over for something, they didn't seem to eleborate on the details tho.






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 05-20-2010, 09:47 Post: 170950
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Frank my friend, you are of course correct. I was using for all of the calculations the basis of a zero wind.

This at first blush seems deceiving, but it's not since as long as you are comparing two different airplanes traveling the same route, the wind would have equal effect on both, whether in favour of, or against you.

As for pushing you in the door, wouldn't dream of it, I'm old enough to know if someone doesn't want to fly, it's just better you don't take them along. Wink yeah right

On the other hand, read the statistics, your chances of being involved in an aircraft accident are about 1 in 11,000,000.

On the other hand, your chances of being killed in an automobile accident are 1 in 5000.

Statistically, you are at far greater risk driving to the airport than getting on an airplane.

There's an old joke amongst pilots, we aren't concerned too much with wrecks, highway construction or traffic jams, in fact there sort of interesting to look at.... from a few thousand feet above!

My favourite way of watching the world roll by on a nice day is "low & slow". It doesn't get much better than that.


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 05-20-2010, 10:21 Post: 170952
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Murf, I can understand Frank on the not being the biggest fan of flying and the odds of being killed in airplane crash is improved if you stay out of them. Smile






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 05-20-2010, 11:09 Post: 170957
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Murf;
Between you and my kids who are seeming always to be going here ot there on a airplane on business, usually they are back before I know they left.
They give me all that business about being safer in a plane too, and you guys are correct. I did fly once to Hawiai or however you spell it and back, that was enough for me. I've always said I'd love to go back there someday soon as they get the bridge done.






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 05-20-2010, 14:45 Post: 170961
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Murf, I can understand Frank on the not being the biggest fan of flying and the odds of being killed in airplane crash is improved if you stay out of them. Smile




Isn't that sort of ironic, coming from an insurance man? Laughing out loud


Frank, don't wait for the bridge, take a cruise with the little lady, it's about the most spoiling a person can get without going to jail. Wink yeah right


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 05-25-2010, 11:35 Post: 171083
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 Car Fuel Economy and the 55 MPH speed limit

The 55 mph was never about saving money or fuel and if it comes back now it will be for the same reasons: exerting political control and herding the stupid sheep(us).






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 05-25-2010, 14:40 Post: 171090
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Hey Mark!

Now that you mention it I used to marvel at how politicians visting Manhattan would be wisked through in motorcades with officers blocking all the side streets to create an midtown expressway where there was none.

Obviously security was one of the main concerns, but it certainly puts our leaders out of touch with everyday commutation issues.






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 05-25-2010, 15:52 Post: 171093
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The 55 mph was never about saving money or fuel and if it comes back now it will be for the same reasons: exerting political control and herding the stupid sheep(us).



Mark, one of the best colloquialisms I've heard in a long time is "sheeple" to denote 'people' who act more like 'sheep' in just blindly following the orders of the day.

Mind you, I'm blessed to live in a place where the head of the Provincial Police (our version of a State Trooper, who have almost exclusive domain over major highways) drew criticism a few years back for making a statement to the effect of "We are the Police, not tax collectors, if the traffic is moving smoothly and nobody is driving like an idiot I see no reason to slow everyone down merely to enrich the coffers by issuing a few tickets."

When the top politician chastised him for his comments his reply was along the line of "If the vast majority of people travel at speeds well above the speed limits then maybe the speeds limits should be changed. Politicians should remember they're elected by the people we're writing tickets to after all, I'm not."

Smart feller he is.


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 05-25-2010, 17:44 Post: 171095
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My original post about the 55 mph limit was centered more toward how many lives were saved after the 55 limit was brought in.
We seem to be a nation of rebels, if the speed limit is 55 We're gonna drive 65, limit is 75, I'm gonna drive 85, etc.
Our nearby biggest city installed red light cameras, oh my what an uproar, that's entrapment, etc., etc, I think I'm right on this that like 2500 tickets were sent to violators so far.
I'm sorry, it don't take a genius to understand that if you don't run the light you won't get a ticket.






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