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 01-02-2008, 10:17 Post: 149821
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Plan B.

Use a Dremel-type (small high-speed rotary) tool with a little saw-blade to cut a slot in the screw head (changing it from a Robertson to a slot). Set a big screwdriver (you could grind it into a half-moon to match the curve of the saw) into the slot, tap it set with a hammer, lock a vice-grip on the driver handle, and the screw will back out. And apologize for the trouble.

Plan C needs a crowbar, blowtorch and sledge.






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 01-02-2008, 10:30 Post: 149822
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Start with any place that the skirting is bowed out and slip a very thin pry bar between the skirting and the PT lumber, then slide the bar as close to the first screw as possible and then tap it closer still with a hammer, as the bar gets closer to the screw it will cause enough force to get the screw out of the PT, then place the bar directly behind the screw point and push the skirt board back against the PT and bar, turning the screw will now cause it to back out of the skirting board. Once it is proud of the skirt you can get something like screw pliers behind it and get it the rest of the way out.

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 01-04-2008, 07:23 Post: 149861
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Gents--

Thanks to all who contributed to these posts.

I got six pieces of skirting off by using a combination of techniques, including 1) bending the skirting out from the deck enough so that I could slip a saw blade between the skirting and the treated lumber, to saw the screw in the middle, and 2) inserting the square drive bit into the screw head and smacking the @#$% out of the screw to loosen it from the grip of the treated lumber, permitting me to back it out with a screwdriver.

The second technique was the most satisfying becasue it gave me a chance to vent my frustrations.

Am looking into use of ceramic coated screws for the re-install job. Existing screws should not have failed in the numbers they did.

Thanks again for all the help.

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 01-04-2008, 09:52 Post: 149868
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Bob, first off, I'm glad to hear you are making progress.

Secondly though, be aware that the 'deck screws' are not going to be anywhere near as strong as the stainless steel ones you are replacing. IMHO the problem was the amount of expansion and contraction in the material, NOT the screws themselves. Any time we have used man-made lumber we installed it using fastening strips, these have elongated holes or slots in them and as the material expands and contracts the screws just slide back & forth in the slot. I suggest you look at something similar in your case.

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 01-07-2008, 20:17 Post: 150024
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Murf--

Thanks for the tip on fastening strips--I'll see what's available, and may come back for your experienced advice.

My hope is that by shortening the boards each by 1/8 of an inch, I'll do away with the warping problem. The fastening strips may solve the screw breakage problem.

Tks again. Hope the winter is being good to you, and you are getting some kick-back time.

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