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 08-30-2005, 12:13 Post: 115648
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 Hey Randy You are going to get WET

Yeah, New Orleans was looking good until the levee borke in a couple of places. Reports are saying the French Quarter was spared, but now water is lapping at it's edges and rising.

Anyone on here from Grand Forks, ND when it flooded? Maybe they can provide some advice to the New Orleans folks who probably won't be able to get home for 1 - 2 months. I can't imagine being away from home that long knowing you have nothing to return to.

They have to repair the levees first. Then fix the pumps and start pumping before anything close to repairs can get done. Man I feel for those people down there. This is going from real ugly to catastrophe real quick.






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 08-30-2005, 12:16 Post: 115649
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I just minutes ago got the following note from my friend who is presently on the ground in Atlanta GA waiting for clearance to continue on with a load of relief supplies.

"Murf, it's a real bad deal, I just spoke with one of the first pilots back out today, the levees are completely saturated and are now failing, both airports are underwater, they're trying to figure out where they can get us a place to land. They are trying to get one strip open at Louis Armstrong N. O. Int'l. open, but the guy I just spoke to doesn't think that will be possible. The city water system is now contaminated, they had a rupture in one of the main pipes which is in a flooded area and it drew in raw effluent. Both the I-10 bridges north east out of the city are completely destroyed, they won't even let the Nat. Guard use them. If you're feeling up to it we could use your hands for a few days. More when I can."

This is going to be a BIG clean up.






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 08-30-2005, 12:35 Post: 115652
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Thanks for the update Murf. I've been to NO before. If the bridges are out, then it's helicopter or planes. Either way it's bad for the people still there and those that can't get back.






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 08-30-2005, 12:48 Post: 115654
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Most of the pumps that keep the city dry are electric. They say that they can't fix the power grid until the water is removed. Catch 22.

The rest of the pumps are diesel and may be underwater.

The difference between this and other floods is that there is no place for the water to flow except into the city. It sits below sea level and below the level of the Mississippi river.

It is hard to imagine how they will ever return that place to what it was.






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 08-30-2005, 14:07 Post: 115655
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Well, hate to say it, but probably the best thing to do is let nature take its course and return the land to what it was before. It really was a dumb idea to build a city below sea level right in the path of major storms. They have been lucky in the past, but not this time. Im listening to WLSAM live on line right now and they are discussing it. Lets hope no one lights a match, there is gas on the top of the water and fire ants as well.






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 08-30-2005, 14:28 Post: 115656
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My thoughts exactly taheide. Except for the match. There's a bunch of buildings on fire already so a monster fire is probably just a matter of time. I hope I'm wrong, and also hope they can save all the people on the rooftops first.






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 08-30-2005, 15:14 Post: 115657
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Has anyone noticed the stampede of hurricane relief aid offers from around the world??????

Germany has already made their offer for assistance.






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 08-30-2005, 15:29 Post: 115658
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The quoted Germans are simpletons. And I say that as a guy of German heritage!






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 08-30-2005, 16:25 Post: 115666
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The German link shows some very insensitive comments about a serious situation that blind pols are trying use to support their political positions.

There is no doubt that there is global warming. There even seems to be a coorelation between global temperature and severe weather. The question is whether humans have had anything to do with it or could change things if they wanted to. Many Europeans seem to take it on faith that humans can change climates. We cannot stop volcanoes, earthquakes, asteroids, hurricanes, typhoons, many diseases, flooding, idealogic hatrid or even some large forest fires, but we can change the whole earth's climate. I heard a report recently that EU has been unable to meet their own self imposed Kyoto quotas. One quote that I often hear is that the temperature is higher now than it has been for 1000 years. I have always wanted to know what humans did 1000 years ago to raise the global temperature back then. I am pretty sure that the Americans at the time were not producing as much carbon dioxide as the European Community.

I feel better now. ;-}

I just spoke to another friend in Memphis and he said that they had "larger than average" rain. He is prone to understatement.






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 08-30-2005, 16:27 Post: 115668
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Simpleton? Is that the same as idiots?

If global warming started 20 years ago, what the hell caused hurricanes before that?

Go back and read old issues of Time and Newsweek. These same idiots were convinced that the world was cooling 30 years ago and if we didn't mend our evil ways we would have icebergs in Iowa by the year 2000.

Whats next? Global stagnation?






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