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An Example of Government Fed Too Much of Our Money and Out of Control
wingwiper,
your quote: "I have never heard of a Mall claiming Eminent domain."
You must have not been paying too much attention to eminent domain issues in the last several years. I can list 3 instances of the top of my head in the area where I live, where eminent domain laws were used to rob people of their property to give it to private developers under the guise of "increasing revenue base". Just go to castlecoalition.org to see for yourself.
Like I said before, the most important role of government is to protect peoples lives and property. When the government ceases to perform this function, or worse yet, to take peoples lives and property unjustly (Ruby Ridge comes to mind), such government looses it's justification for existence, and it's only a matter of time when people come up with a different form of government.
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I went to a few in the NJ area you are from, I found some on hold, I found one that was a manufacturing bussiness in an area zoned for retail but was not able to find one that went thru all of the way. I have not stopped looking. Please point one out that involves, Private people.. Thanks.
Sounds to me if there is one and I note most of the pins are in Organized Crime controlled areas. Wow! let's talk about garbage contracts in NYC...
I don't understand how Private Companies can use Eminent Domain to achieve levels of Profit. I would beleive it was thru Cooruption and not thru legal avenues.
As I look thru the rest of the country, they are far and few in between and many states have had ZERO. I don't really see where there was NO COMPENSATION but do see where there is some pretty shady action taking place.
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Talk about shady, in charleston SC. you have several Islands in the area. James island and johns island. There is an oak tree that is very old 800 years or so on Johns Island. This man owned it since 1950 at least. It is called the ANGLE OAK it went national in the 90's. The mayor of charleston decided he wanted the tree, to protect it. The man that owned the tree said bite me. The lawyers that we pay for with our taxes estimated that the money left at the site of the oak tree when people visited was never claimed as Income. So they sued for back taxes over a 40 year period for a zillion dollars. Yea the guy kept the money but never charged to see the tree. He started charging in order to pay for the lawsuit. Long story short, he could not keep up, the tree was stolen as a national treasure, state park status set up, all under Eminent domain. If you can not afford to hire a lawyer (they want their money up front) you are out of luck. Citys, states, federal lawyers are paid by us in order to steel privite property under the guise of Eminent domain. So I do not doubt that they got the mall under Eminent domain, they sure as hell took this tree. They had to anex the whole Island in order to do it. Nothing but tramps and theives I think I may have voted for some of them. Go figure.
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call 1-800-Bill-oreilly
Maybe taking some of this stuff national will put the pressure on. We had that silly ass poor excuse for a Judge who gave a child raper 90 days and Bill O'Reilly made it national and now the raper ended up with 10 years. So things can happen when the whole Nation is watching. We get so involved in ourselves that we don't even noticed a Sunset along the Interstate, it takes someone to stop and attraction attention adn the next thing you know there is bumper to bumper jams.
Attract Big Gys like 60 minutes and the what not.
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First, I don't normally get involved in these intense discussions, cuz I'm not that quick on the keyboard or in the come-back category. BUT, Horse Farmer would you please enlighten me on the (Ruby Ridge) thing. Didn't the Fed's go there to execute a Firearms Violation warrant and was fired upon?
I know, this is going to start a hole new war.
David
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check out the link about ruby ridge. It gave me time to think what was this about.
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He had a shotgun that was a bit too short by Fed Standards. Got his wife and kid killed for that. The ATF is a whole nother story.
Bunch of wannabe storm troopers who feel they are the only chosen ones.
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Your description leaves out some detail that would shock any reasonable person. Suffice it to say that in this case; law enforcement was totally out of control and made a horrible disaster out of a situation that should have been resolved administratively and peacefully.
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SG8NUC, Thanks for the link. Looks to me like the ATF&FBI royally screwed up and Weaver sounds like A NUT.
David
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Weaver may have had beleifs that were different from you or me, but he wasn't a NUT. Maybe he was a little to overboard in some of his beleifs but that is all based on perspective.
Look up why there is a shot gun length law, find out how old that law is and do we really still have a problem with short shotguns? The point was that Weaver was on trial for what was 1 inch of barrel length? wow! people died for a inch of barrel? That made the shotgun a much shorter range and possible screwd it up ballistically. Barrel lengths are as much a part of the design as any other part. Not allowing the gas pressures to peak and stay behind the projectile for a longer period of time would cause the velocity to be far less than designed and range would be decreased big time.. so what was the problem? ATF looking for a fight? I have heard some real Horror stories about these wannabes, how they have battered doors down without warrants and roughed people up. Being an ATF agent to some of their memebers gives them an SS attitude.
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