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Torque for Oil Plug
I can't believe with all the bright minds participating in this thread, no one has mentioned oil plug seals. Here is how you know that you have the right torque: get a plastic oil plug seal that matches your plug. Then, when you tighten the plug, watch when the plug starts to squize the plastic out. Just after you squized the plastic, it's tight enough. Have used this "gauge" on all my cars/truck and never had any leaks. Same could work for aluminum seals if you're weary of plastic, though aluminum is obviously harder to deform so you have to account for that.
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DenisS -
Although the plastic seal/washer probably will work in many if not most applications, I had an ugly experience with it.
I had a 6 cylinder, that for whatever reason, decided to run hot. It ran so hot (not the coolant, rather the oil), that it baked the paint and alligatored the paint on the oil pan. All of a sudden I realized a leak of oil - actually smelt it as I was driving down the highway, sealing the roadway and everyone behind me, with oil.
Apparently, the plastic seal melted, and because there now was no tightening pressure to secure the oil plug, the plug fell out. Needless to say, the rest of the story wasn't exactly cheap.
A similar incident happened to me from an oil filter seal. The oil filter backed off the stud causing a leak by. Fortunately for me this time, I caught it in time and saved it. One might consider that the oil had just been changed, and the elements in question were not properly secured from the gitgo. But, that was not the case, as it was about 2000 miles into the oil change when it happened.
Many manufacturer's today, have either a plastic, brass, or copper washer as a compression seal, or as you pointed out, an aluminum washer seal. I have never had an issue with my I/O seal, or tractor seals letting loose (knock on my wood hard head, ). Just the six cylinder Ford, and I won't soon forget that experience.
I guess I am in the lower percentile....
- Willie H
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no more plastic washer seals for me.
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I've had cars/trucks/motorcycles with plastic washers (I really think it's more like Teflon), copper washers or none at all. Never had a problem out of any of them.
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Willie,
Broken, understand.
Paint on oil pan, not sure who is doing what on painting oil pans but the last few on autos I have seen (floor too far last few years) have not been painted. My father in law's mid 70's chevy pickup came with no finish on oil pan. When he asked they told him it was to help it give off heat.
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kt -
You know, now that you have me thinking about that, the new pan was not painted, but the original from Ford that had never been changed was - it was painted black.
I can remember that Ford had an "issue" with the oil pans from this vintage, as when I went to replace it (thinking I'll have to order one at best - no one will have any on the shelves), the local Ford dealer remarked we have 17 on the shelf.
The newer ones were of heavier gage steel, as well as a different seal design. Wandering abit from topic here, but ya got the noodle thinkin' !
Definitely was painted black, vs new plain Jane.
BillyP - teflon, that was the word I was thinking of - not plastic ~ thanks.
- Willie H
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Well, ncrunch can still use a soft aluminum washer to gauge the torque on his oil-drain plug - no worry about breaking or melting there.
ncrunch,
Trying to find a good use for your torque wrenches.
The CUTs do come with torque specs for all the bolts (have to be questioned in light of comments by earthwrks), maybe that's where you can put them to use. I understand you have to check all the bolts every 200hrs or so.
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The oil pan on my Honda Pilot is cast aluminun with no paint as it does not need it. I guess that helps it run cooler.
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DenisS - yep, I bought my first 1/2 torque wrench for the tractor. That's what got me started. Then needed torque wrench for rebuilding kohler engine. Then for torqing new water pump on my boat.
All of a sudden in my 50s I am in torque heaven!! I just can't stop torqing anymore. Its outta control
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