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 07-18-2006, 09:47 Post: 132326
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I'm sorry folks, but I'm definitely not on the same page with you when it comes to the new Challenger. The concept car weighs around 4200lb. I imagine it will get even more bloated by the time it becomes a production car. It's too fat.






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 07-18-2006, 10:05 Post: 132328
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where did you get that weight from?






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 07-18-2006, 11:25 Post: 132330
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Motor Trend cover story.






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 07-18-2006, 12:46 Post: 132332
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Oof. At 4200 lbs, the car would be too heavy. They should be targeting 3500-3600 lbs as a reasonable weight. Ideally, 3200 would be better.






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 07-18-2006, 13:14 Post: 132334
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That's what I'm saying. This thing can sure accellerate, but I don't know how good it'll handle on the turns. I love the looks of it, I just wish it was a 1000lb lighter.






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 07-18-2006, 13:43 Post: 132335
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The 300C and the Charger with the MDS Hemi both run about 4100 pounds and they get 25 mpg Highway.
The displacement of weight is almost a dead even 50 / 50 and with the cab forward design where the wheels are in the 4 corners, the handling is suberb and the weight keeps you to the ground and gives you those 5 Star ratings everyone wants. The rear wheel drive gives us all back the feeling of being pushed around a corner verus that fish tail feeling. Plus when going up spongy traction roads you don't need to fight the steering as the tires try to grab.
the 5.7L MDS Hemi has 345 hp and with a 4100 pound car delivers 25 mpg, so I'll keep the weight and watch that Challenger DIG IN when the pedal is pressed on that 426 Hemi. "Vanishing Point and Bullett" will soon be in Theaters near you.






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 07-18-2006, 15:12 Post: 132336
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"superb handling" is a catchfrase for a commercial. Let's talk actual numbers.

The concept weighs in at 4120lb with carbonfiber body - will be more when it's sheet metal and additional "family friendly" features are added on.

The new Challenger gives a 0.8g on the skidpad (as I remember from the Motor trend article). What kinda cornering is that for a performance car?

gas mileage is estimated at 14 city, 20 highway, very good compared with the original Challenger (1970) and roughly the same as today’s smallest, most underpowered Hummer.

All for an expected $35K. Add another $5K and you can have a real sports car, say a Corvette?










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 07-18-2006, 21:18 Post: 132346
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I missed the part about the .8g's on the skidpad. In fact, the articles I read admitted the concept car was basically for looks and market response (thus the term "concept car"Wink yeah right and that no performance numbers would be possible with it. The show tires rubbed on even moderate steering input and on bumps, I assume. One article said that a 0-60 of 4.25 (or was it 4.5?) seconds was believable with the 6.1 liter Hemi, but no timed runs were made.

The latest article I saw mentioned that the body was all carbon fiber; earlier reports said only the hood was.

Honestly, I don't expect DC to market this car as competition for the Corvette. If they can keep the price down, it should be a good competitor for the 'Stang. And I'm still betting on at least two engine options, at least one of which will have the variable-displacement system.

Maybe a Challenger T/A in 2010?

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 07-19-2006, 00:06 Post: 132358
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Sorry, Dodge already has its competition for the Corvette and side by side the Corvette is a distant second. I am speakin of the Viper......
The Challenger is NOT a Family Car, that is why it may be a two door.
I have NOT heard of the 5.7L MDS Hemi being put in and as far as I know the 6.1L is NOT an MDS as is currently used in the SRTs, except for the SRT-10 which has the Viper V-10. Our reports (which are sometimes not as good as the consumer's) says there will be NO MANUAL Transmission, but then again they were talking about a 08 release and moved it up only after the hits broke all previous records for any concept car inquiry.






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 07-19-2006, 07:59 Post: 132364
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That's probably a minor point, but Corvette base price is just under $40K, whereas the Viper retails for $85,750. So it's not very fair to put the two in the same category. As far as Viper is concerned I don't know if it has any direct competitors in the similar price range. Wouldn't mind having it in my driveway myself Smile






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