discussion   |   photos   |   email   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


Forum Index


New As Posted | Active Subjects



Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Just For Fun Off Topic Forum

Page 1 | [ 2 ] |      << Prev
 
 01-13-2004, 16:49 Post: 73900
AV8R



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Central Wisconsin
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 882

4
Filter by User
 Website

In the background you'll see my pressure washer. A clean tractor is a happy tractor. Yes, only about 12 hours on it so far, more snow tonight though.

If you're referring to my 3pt hitch, it works great, use it to move the car hauler all the time.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-14-2004, 07:03 Post: 73933
TomG

TP Contributor

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Upper Ottawa Valley
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 5406

3
Filter by User
 Website

AV8R: Mine is a comment about the site rather than the pics. Looks like the site design is in hand. I did notice that you're coding in plain old HTML.

If you're going to do a fair bit of site design and maintenance you might want to take a look at HTML style sheets. It's a way of getting almost all of the HTML tags out of the content files and into their own files that can then be assigned to any content file you want to have the same style. As the content gets longer and more complex it ends up taking time to fish through code trying to find the or pictures you want to change. It also means that one change to a style sheet can make many formatting changes to the same or to many content files.

There also are features that helps get text where you want it easily (indenting and white space for example) and for ensuring that most systems and browsers in use will display a site OK.

Few pros today code in HTML. I'm no pro but I do have three sites and the time I spent editing was getting too much. I stick with HTML but it was really worth it to study enough to convert two of the three sites to CSS as it's called.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-14-2004, 08:27 Post: 73941
DennisCTB



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Nov 1998
Location: NorthWest NJ
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 2586
 Website

Actually, everyone who does this for a living like I am is writing HTML. One of the key differences between a newbie and someone who does it for a living is that a developer writes programs that write the "HTML" code dynamically at run time, whereas the novice uses an IDE like Frontpage to generate the HTML.

When the novice uses an IDE, all of the "Style" (fonts, font color, bold......) get embedded with the HTML tags. With a CSS style defintion, each HTML tag can be associated with a style for that HTML object. This allows for adjustment of a style from a central style file that can impact many html pages that reference it, and this is what makes it easier to maintain HTML code.

Dennis
TractorPoint






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-14-2004, 09:55 Post: 73947
TomG

TP Contributor

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Upper Ottawa Valley
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 5406

3
Filter by User
 Website

Hi Dennis. Seems like I touched on another part of your life. Strange the sorts of things that can be found on a tractor page.

I think we both have the same message. Once a site gets a bit complex and maintaining it starts taking a lot of time fishing around in files of content with embedded HTML tags then CSS sure does simplify life and also produce better results. I sure was happy to throw away all the old HTML tricks I learned to get decent formatting, and now I don't have to worry that I changed all instances in all files of what started out seeming like a simple fix. CSS does have quite a learning curve but it's well worth it if a site starts getting complex.

I think I got the impression that pros weren't using much HTML from a comment on my HTML editor's site when I upgraded it. Well, the new editor does generate decent CSS and various HTML standards despite the comment. I've also noted a bunch of file types (PL PHP CGI/Perl etc.) that led me to believe that people were generating entire sites from various scripts. I use some canned CGI and PHP myself but I wouldn't want to learn how to program it myself for what I do. CSS works just fine for me, and the site that verifies CSS and accompanying HTML code also is just great.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-14-2004, 17:46 Post: 73990
AV8R



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Central Wisconsin
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 882

4
Filter by User
 Website

Wow. You guys are WWWAAAYYY over my head. Like Dennis said, my site is generated by Frontpage. It's all I can do to manage that right now. Looking into taking some classes maybe, but ...






Link:   Click Here 

Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 01-15-2004, 07:47 Post: 74034
TomG

TP Contributor

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Upper Ottawa Valley
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 5406

3
Filter by User
 Website

Morning AV8R: I got so caught up in my own subject I forgot about yours. You did what I advocated doing several times before Dennis provided a pic capacity on the board. Yours is a good effort. If everybody did that we wouldn't have to live with the size restrictions for posting on the board and doing so would reduce the traffic and costs of operation.

I think it can be a decent hobby to have a personal site as well as useful. As you likely discovered it doesn't take a huge investment in time to gain enough skills either. It also doesn't cost much since most ISP accounts provide enough server and traffic allowance to support a personal site as part of the service. The CSS stuff might be useful if editing stops being fun or interesting.

As an alternative to classes, I put up my first site about 10 years ago on a corporate LAN (didn't make the systems department too happy either). I never took any classes but I had several books. Mostly what I did was look at the source of other sites; look up statements I didn't understand and generally do what other sites did. If you haven't discovered it, the IE6 view menu has a choice titled 'source.'






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page 1 | [ 2 ] |      << Prev

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Just For Fun Off Topic Forum

Thread 73730 Filter by Poster:
AV8R 4 | Chief 1 | DennisCTB 1 | DRankin 2 | JParker 3 | Murf 1 | murphyg 1 | TomG 3 |

 (advanced search)

Picture of the Day
Coachlarry

John Deere Gator - 1200A Secondary Cap Screw
1200A Secondary Cap Screw


Unanswered Questions

Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Horse Injured Polyrope Electri
Do electric fences keep out de
Any Peruvian Paso Owners Out T
gas powered post driver
My new born foal is really sic
Trailer Axle
dump trailer blueprints


Active Subjects

Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Went to see Dennis Reis this w
Signs to look for prior to lab
leg injury
Broodmare has welts all over h
Some Christmas Humor For Horse
poles in the ground vs. concre
ever thought about moving?


Hot Topics

new app owner
Some Christmas Humor For Horse
Any Peruvian Paso Owners Out T
Heating a Garage
Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Do electric fences keep out de
gas powered post driver
Trailer Axle


Featured Suppliers

Mountain Creek Labradoodles
      MountainCreekLabradoodles.com





New Forums on Gun Sport Shooting and Hunting -- BarrelPoint.com  New Forums on Horses ManePoint.com
Talk Horses at ManePoint
Hunting + Gun Sports at BarrelPoint



Most Viewed

+ Joke o the day
+ Vandalism or Civil Matter
+ -17 degrees F
+ Merry Christmas
+ Colonoscopy Tuesday how did your s go
+ New Implements
+ Youth Christmas Gift Gun
+ Merry Christmas to all TP Members
+ Motorcycles
+ What is your self-worth

Most Discussion

+ -17 degrees F
+ New Implements
+ one theory on Jobs
+ WHAT DID YOU DO TODAY
+ Empire farm days
+ Shooting at Mall in Kingston
+ Vandalism or Civil Matter
+ Joke o the day
+ A thought-provoking eye-opener
+ Hey Randy You are going to

Newest Topics

+ New Forums
+ The Tractorpoint Joke Thread
+ Things we say and what do they mean REALLY
+ Smile for the day Ole and Swen and others
+ Too much Snow Too Soon for me
+ Happy Thanksgiving
+ Commuting 335 miles to work
+ I m back
+ Some weather related news from North Dakota
+ How did you wind up where you are living Survey
















Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines