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 05-16-2006, 15:30 Post: 129451
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you are correct, I just wanted him to know not to use the paper. I have used shingles and they worked fine.






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 05-16-2006, 15:36 Post: 129452
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earthwrks,
rot was probably not the best word to use. But like KT said, it would degrade overtime. What's worse, it's gonna be degraded worse in some spots (where there's lots of sun) and less in others leading to irregular weed growth.

Also, unless you slide that paper right underneath the frame of the building (which may lead to flooding), you're going to have weeds growing just between the wall and the edge of the paper. They'll be pretty happy there, too.

I guess Murf had the best overall suggestion about laying gravel, but like I said, in 3 to 5 years you'll never know you had gravel there, unless you apply pesticides every couple of weeks of the growing season. Another thing to think about is how those pesticides will affect the finish on the pole building where you're applying it. You may get staining or bleaching, especially on the sunny side.






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 05-16-2006, 15:38 Post: 129453
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correction: sorry, I meant rolled roofing, not paper in the last post.






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 05-16-2006, 19:32 Post: 129459
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1*I would not think roofing would rot very quickly. I would think the air from nature or the mower would be the first thing that gets to it.
2*I have used carpet and that works as good as anything and its free.
3*The rolled roofing we're talking about isn't felt or tar paper; it's like shingle material but in a wide roll like tar paper.
4*As far as rotting, I've never seen anything with asphalt in it rot.
5* I guess Murf had the best overall suggestion about laying gravel, but like I said, in 3 to 5 years you'll never know you had gravel there,

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1*Roof shingles have a 20 and 25 year warranty - I don't know what the life span of rolled roofing is but would assume it to be some where in that neighborhood also.
2* My cousin has a dirt floor in a garage he built several years ago. He covered the dirt floor with different sizes and pieces of carpet about ten years ago.
You don't even realize you are walking on carpet unless you stop and think about it.
3*Right It comes in 3 foot wide by 33 foot long rolls if I remember right. I have almost a full roll left over from a project I diid last summer. Might be enough in it. to do most of the pole barn as I only need 112 feet. I also have a pretty long piece of another older roll. Between the 2 I may not need to buy any more.
4* That's one reason they wont accept shingles and roofing in landfills. Another is some of the older stuff contains asbestos.
5*I know what you mean there. Last summer I had slag spread in front of my other pole building for a drive way. It was about 4'' deep. Today you can't even tell its there. The grass has already grown up through it to where it looks just like the rest of the yard.






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 05-16-2006, 19:37 Post: 129460
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A special thanks to all who replied .






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 05-17-2006, 07:51 Post: 129470
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I think a re-read is in order.

"The usual solution is to make a border along the edge of the wall by removing a little dirt, putting down landscaping cloth (to prevent growth,) and covering it with gravel."

Without the landscape fabric, the gravel will indeed disappear in short order. With it in place, and covered, it will be many, many years before anything grows there.

I have some down in places that has been there well over 15 years, and there is still no sign of any growth.

Best of luck.






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 05-17-2006, 08:13 Post: 129471
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Murf, for sure I took notice of your mention of landscaping cloth. I would venture to say you've also been applying pesticides to those areas for 15 years. I think pesticides have had far more to do with the lack of growth than any landscaping cloth. I speak from my own experience. I bought a house with a lot of "cloth and gravel" landscaping all around the house, the shrubs and trees. I only found out that it was there after I started digging to lay new drainage or plant new shrubs, etc. I would have never even known the stuff was there! The grass and dirt was all over it.

Maybe another difference is in the climate. It gets pretty hot and humid here in NJ from May to September, so maybe things grow much easier here than up in Canada.






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 05-17-2006, 08:32 Post: 129472
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I have to chime in here...

I have plastic under my gravel (lava rock), and I'm going on year 4 - and I haven't pulled a weed yet. No pesticides needed - as nothing grows there.

I know different people have different experiences, but if you put a high quality landscape cloth or plastic under your gravel you should have very little, if any, issues.






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 05-17-2006, 09:16 Post: 129474
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HF, no pesticides at all. Healthy turf doesn't need it.

I suspect it has more to do with "The grass and dirt was all over it." than anything else. Landscape fabric has no chemical growth inhibitors or anything in it that will stop plants growing ON TOP of it.

The weather is pretty warm here too, I'm only a little less than 300 miles north of you, and don't have the Atlantic Ocean to moderate the summer heat.

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 05-17-2006, 09:30 Post: 129475
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The success or failure of the landscape fabric & gravel approach may have to due with how much dust and dirt blows around in your area. During dry periods we have quite a bit of dust blowing around. It accumulates in gutters and on the roof. Eventually enough dirt accumulates in the gutters to support weed growth. It takes a year or two for this to happen and then I need to clean the gutters. Weeds would grow on top of landscape fabric in a few years here.






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