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Big: Sorry, I somehow assumed it was tractor-mounted.
Hard: What did you find scarey about a rear-hitch auger?
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Auer, Frank's just generally a scaredycat. Meeeeow.
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EW;
OK now, it seems I have to splain everything to yous any more. Do you have trouble tying your shoes too, sometimes I do, but back to the fraidy cat thing on augers.
My first and only post hole auger was a no name elcheapo from TSC or some fleet store, not sure I remember where I bought it.
This death trap machine had a long handle that was meant for the operator of the tractor to use kinda over his/her shoulder to guide the auger where you wanted it to drill the hole. That worked out about as good as the Edsel, so you then turned the handle backward so a person standing behind the auger used this handle to guide the auger in and out of the hole to clear the dirt. It wouldn't drill a hole and auger the dirt up at the same time you had to lift it out several times per hole. The only safe way to bring the auger up or back in the hole was to stop the PTO which didn't work real good because without the auger turning it wouldn't come up out of the hole without bending the frame of the machine. So here stands this person behind the running auger with dirt flying all over with the auger flopping about and oh my get rid of that thing before someone is killed, which I promptly did.
Now remember this is the only auger I ever was exposed to so there likely are much better and safer ones built than I had.
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Me thinks it was all due to a loose nut behind the steering wheel. Am I right Franky?
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Good to know, because I'm looking for an auger, and wouldn't have thought it useful to take it for a test drill before buying.
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There's something fishy going on with augers lately.
I drilled (17) 16" x 48" holes today for a pole barn building company. They hadn't used me in three years apparently using rental equipment.
The laborers told me on the last job they rented a NEW Bobcat brand skid steer about the size of mine (80 hp) which is on the bigger end of the scale.
They said it took an hour per hole to drill the same size hole I dug in about 3 minutes (4 or 5 plunges to clean out hole). The Bobcat bogged down and at one point wouldn't turn the auger. Mine's rated at 1,700 pound feet of torque at the auger. Clay was the material.
They noted that I have flat, carbide chisel teeth on my auger. It's rated as "extreme duty" supposedly rated for drilling asphalt, but I doubt it. It can auger through frost which is like asphalt, but makes chips like wood shavings from a wood plane.
So I wonder what may driving the lack of ability with augers across the spectrum.
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"So I wonder what may driving the lack of ability with augers across the spectrum." EW
You could be right there could be a cut back in design due to some liability issue...and not trying to offend anyone it could all be operator errors in these cases.
Frank, I understand some of your concern with an auger and know there have been people killed by them and those I think were often clothes caught in the PTO shaft or auger itself. One thing that some people don't understand is augers and mowers are totally different on PTO speeds. Often augers need to run slow due to safety while mowers always needs the high rpms for tip speed. A full 540 rpm speed on some augers look like what is it, a disaster waiting for location.
Auerbach, if you have the ability to use hyd to power the auger would suggest it. That way if the bit becomes jammed you can reverse it while with the normal PTO model as EW has already mentioned that is a hand job and often with pipe wrench or bar. Neither fun or fast. Realize the PTO models cost less.
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KT;
After the fact I now understand that my auger was at the bottom of the quality scale, there were many much better ones built, but I went for cheap, so that's what I got.
The hydraulic drives have the reversing feature, a blessing from above when roots or gravel rocks are involved. The "Thing", I'll call it that I had was shearpin city to say the least.
I do remember somewhere seeing an ad for an auger that had a very safe look about it. Somehow there was a sort of supporting frame that sat on the ground and the auger went straight up and down within the frame without anyone having to hand guide it.
Frank.
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Frank, thinking back to the days of the tractors with single stage clutch bet using a PTO driven auger would not have been any more fun than running a heavy rough cut mower around a pond or ditch. It would not be smart to have the pto running while the auger was swinger free and such. Not saying you were doing so but that thought sure came to my mind here.
Have a great 4th of July.
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