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 02-11-2004, 07:32 Post: 76616
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I'll be following progress. Highway surveyors have been working away along our frontage. They may want to grab 7.5' of our property to solve their road bed drainage problems. If it comes to that it'll probably compromise our existing row of mature white and red pine so we'll be looking for a replacement privacy barrier and substantial compensation.

I guess the fence is along a property line and will stay. I'd think in terms of how much slope a birm could tolerate without erosion problems. To get much height a birm might have to be pretty wind and that would set the tree line further from the fence. A retaining wall on the fence side would solve any erosion problems but that sounds like a lot of work.






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 05-25-2004, 15:20 Post: 86824
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This is a picture of what I was talking about originally
but in this picture it needed to be only 50 ft...
I lucked out in finding Arboritaes 6-7 ft for $40 each, delivered free..

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 05-26-2004, 06:47 Post: 86885
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Pretty good-looking trees and the mound as well. I don't imagine they'll limb up as they mature like our pine so the privacy would remain.

We lucked out as well. We talked to our highway dept. A junior engineer stopped by on a Sunday when she was returning home from a personal trip and took a bunch of pictures. The engineers and consultants decided they didn't need the land after all. They'll even write a requirement to protect our tree roots into the construction contract.






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 05-26-2004, 09:47 Post: 86907
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 Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce

The arbs make a nice barrier. Nice job! Another way to do it getting more privacy is to make (2) rows and stagger them at mid point. You can spread them slightly further apart but will end up with a few more bushes. That was a very good deal for the price of them. The berm is tall and narrow, so wood chips may not stay well. I put a clump of 8' blue spruces on a tall burm; used a weed barrier and covered it with river rock. Makes a nice maintenance free natural barrier without erosion.

I also noticed the 2 stage blower on your other pictures. Does that work very good? I picked up another cub a few weeks ago. It was an older model 782 (red) but only had 389 hours on it. It has a 2 stage blower about 46-48" wide with metal cab and 3 point hitch for $880.00. The blower mounts to the 3 point and sticks further out front (not a cub blower). It has tire chains and a new battery. It was a 1984 model tractor with less hours than my mid-90's models. I thought I got a pretty good deal. I also paid another $87.00 for a 4500 Watt tractor mounted generator. If you say yours works good, I may consider using it next winter vs: a FEL and backblade on my CUT.






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 05-26-2004, 10:30 Post: 86911
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Ducati, nice job! I am in NY and have planted 20 5' skyrocket Junipers 3 feet apart for a privacy barrier. Got them last fall at 1/2 price. In front of that I planted 6 small 1 gallon Thuga (Thuja) pines as a test. In another area I have also gathered several "burning bushes" from my property and made a row that created an instant 4-6' hedge.

My wife has had me planting so many blue spruce all over the place that I can pull them when they get too large and close and move them around. I think that now that my poolyard is done I will be using my tractor mostly for rearranging trees and bushes.






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 05-26-2004, 11:31 Post: 86915
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Hi Yooperpete,

I'm very, very happy with my Cub 3204 and blower !!
the 782 is a very desirable machine and I think the engine is rubber mounted for smoothness? The 2 stage throws snow up to 70 ft (maybe more)..I like using it over my JD4100 w/FEL and Rear Blade for snow removal - considerably quicker
and cleaner. Of course on gravel the FEL and rear blade work better

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 06-08-2004, 23:55 Post: 88115
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 Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce

Sorry I can't help you much with fir or spruce specifically, but I can share with you my own experiences planting a privacy barrier. I looked at those trees as well as leyland cypress, arborvitae, and willows. I ended up trying a section of bamboo, and it has worked so well for me that I'm going to stick with it as my barrier plant. It needs no maintenance, will grow in your climate, will outgrow weeds, doesn't have a real problem with disease or insect, and it fills in quickly. I think the thing bugged me about the other trees/shrubs was having to look through the gaps between shrubs for the years it took them to fill in. By the second year my bamboo had almost totally blocked the view of next door.

The only down side I can think of is that it might do a little too well, depending on the variety you choose. It might mean you trim back the stand a little each year to control its growth.

Hieght, cane size, and growth vary alot; there are many varieties for sale out there. It pays to ask a few questions as the nursery to be sure you get the one that's best for you.






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 06-09-2004, 07:34 Post: 88125
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Funchy, that is interesting about bamboo being a good barrier. I had a neighbor who grew bamboo next to me in Hudson Valley NY where it goes to -20F. You wouldn't think it would grow here. I need to call her to find out the variety she used.






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 06-09-2004, 08:13 Post: 88128
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I have heard stories about Bamboo being too prolific. Some gardeners recommend planting it inside "steel" or "concrete" containers to stop it from spreading into unwanted areas.

I have always been interested in bamboo, but my wife -- the garden expert -- always puts the red flag up when I start the bamboo idea. She is usually right about this stuff, so it is worth researching the variety and how you are going to contain it before you buy into it.

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 06-09-2004, 08:44 Post: 88129
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The bamboo variety we had in our last house grew incredibly slow and was not at all prolific. So Dennis advice is good, you need to research the varieties and select the one that has the characteristics you desire.






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