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 05-05-2007, 12:42 Post: 141805
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D'oh, Harvey you're right! That will never work.






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 05-05-2007, 18:01 Post: 141816
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crunch, there's a lot of ifs, ands or buts here. You say you want a 110 plug-in and your well pump wiring is closest? That's where I'd start, that is if this line is hot all the time? This motion light isn't gonna draw much of anything but I don't know about your battery maintainer. What I'd try is two separate 110 plug-ins. One off L1 and one off of L2. This way if both came on at the same time they wouldn't share the same hot wire.

It really boils down to amp draw, wire size and breaker size. The well pump is gonna pull some pretty good amps but only for a few seconds at a time, at start up. The other two aren't gonna pull much at all.






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 05-05-2007, 22:00 Post: 141822
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Frank: "The guy next door with the PVC for his power cord and the water hose is one of those so neat and proper type guys that it almost makes you throw up. Sorry, maybe you are that type too."

Smile I wish I were--you oughtta see some of the stuff I've been known to do (not really Wink yeah right )






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 05-05-2007, 22:29 Post: 141823
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 Tapping in to Well Electric

It is not a big deal to run 100' PE conduit and install a short post with a weatherproof outlet. You can rent a commercial edger with a new blade to dig the little trench for you, probably around thirty bucks for half a day.

Hardest part will be routing the electric from your box to the outside wall, and depending upon your circumstances, that could be a simple job as well. I hate to see extension cords used for anything other than that for which they are designed. Asking for trouble. Good luck.






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 05-06-2007, 06:43 Post: 141840
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EW; Dream on, the wife says a "Hail Mary" anytime a visitor goes in my shop for fear they will trip over something and sue us. Even the ambulance chasing type lawyers park out front waiting for a hit. Stay neat. Frank.






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 05-07-2007, 08:27 Post: 141868
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Crunch, I am not a well expert by any means but many people here who have wells have a 110 outlet on them for a light or heating element. To be fully safe you should be wiring to an insulated wire for the neutral side of your 110 outlet, which you may or may not have. The concern I would have is with the neutral side and ground. If you have a metal pipe in the ground that may be sufficient, but some pumps are using PVC which wil not take care of your ground/neutral side at all. The checking of the load is part of it and as has been pointed out a motor has a heavy start load compared to the running load. But if you has using numbers already used a 30 amp circuit to your pump and it is only drawing 20 amps, so you wire into that circuit your 110 circuit is protected by that 30 amp breaker if you don't add another breaker at the outlet or fuse. So if you use 12 guage wire for the 110 outlet and there was to be a short in it, it could heat enough to cause a fire and never trip the 30 amp breaker. Of course if you decide to buy another wire or pvc pipe, you must be clear of the already buried wire to the pump. See if you can get that wire and any other wires marked.

Someone has used the term PHASE in this conversation and someone else has used the term LINE. They are not the same. If your pump is 3 phase and I guess it could be, be sure someone who knows 3 phase is working on that circuit. kt






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 05-20-2007, 02:09 Post: 142244
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Thanks to all. Based on what I've heard I will stay away from tapping into the well electric for now. I will probably run a "well" pitched underground pvc pipe with heavy duty extension cord as originally planned.






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