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Iamhistory,
Good advice!
General rule of thumb...........figure out how much space you think you'll need, and then double it. Even when using this formula, you'll still end up short of room.
Joel
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Kangarro; No matter what the pole barn builders tell you there just isn't such a thing as a square pole that won't rot off at ground level in 15 years or less since real creosote poles went away. I built three of them at the farm, in less than fifteen years we were replacing poles,
with the same garbage, (the green arsenic treated things). the last two sheds i built are a concreet wall with a regular frame building with a shingle roof. The surprising thing is that here in Iowa, I don't know aboput other parts of the country a frame building actually costs less than a pole shed, labor included. the only extra cost is the concreet stem wall.
I hadn't actually figured it by the square ft. cost on the one just completed this July first till just now. Here is a breakdown. 46X92 with 16 ft. sidewalls divided into four separate rooms. One of the rooms is insulated and lined with barn steel, heated and air conditioned. the other three are not heated just bare 2x6 studa, full bath, single and three pahse wiring, 1550 sq. ft. of loft storage, concreet floor in aprox 60% of floor space, five overhead doors, landscaping and fill. Final cost, aprox. 88,000 turn key. total sq. ft. aprox 5740 including loft space comes out to $15.30 per sq. ft. Frank.
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Thx, Hardwood. Wow, sounds like a stadium to me. This kind of size need go to townhall get a permit right? property tax will increase a lot. Instead of concrete ground surface, did you ever have a steel one?
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Kangaroo; We are still pretty fortunate out here in the county to be free of most permit restrictions and codes. Long as you own fourty or more acres all you need is a well and sewer permit. Nothing else requires any permits or inspections unless it is going to be a commercial venture, that's when the smelly stuff hits the fan. Tell me about a steel floor in a shed, I've never heard of that. Concrete is almost a luxury any more that's why the storage only end (40%) didn't get the concreet floor, just 8 inches of packed crushed limestone.(road stone, we call it here.)Frank.
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Recc a steel bldg. The folks I dealt with were excellent. Get the square footage requirements and add 10 percent. Also a spec driven concrete floor will support the equipment. Allow for insulation, power, and parts storage.
As one comment made, if theft is not an issue,then an open covered pole barn would be minimal. However, the enclosed barn allows for maintenance, upkeep. etc.
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Frank, is that generally a "rule of thumb" about the forty acre minimum where one can be reasonably assured of reduced hassle on codes, permits, and inspections? At least I'll know what question(s) to ask for the next place. I am in the job search mode at the time; if we can swing it, and depending on where the four winds blow us to, I'd sure like to be "out" some from any type of "big smoke" area. JJ
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Wr5,
The western States have many thousands of unoccupied acres waiting to be inhabited. There are even small towns which offer cash bonuses to those who decide to occupy an abandoned farm, simply because their schools are crying for students (along with the federal money that comes with those students).
Schools are closing in North Dakota at record rates. With increasing farm sizes, there are now fewer farmers here than ever before. This has nearly destroyed the rural school districts. Along with the empty schools, we also have empty and abandoned stores.
Consider moving to a rural area in one of the western States. You'd be surprised at the low housing prices, land prices, and job opportunities. Wages may seem low, but when you figure in the low tax rates, housing costs, etc.......most people actually come out further ahead.
Good luck with your job search. I wish you the best.
Joel
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