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 07-16-2009, 19:31 Post: 164130
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 Pole barn vs frame building

Around here one can build a stick building for less than a steel clad pole barn now. Wasn't that way when I built mine. I would go with the stick built now.






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 07-17-2009, 08:52 Post: 164143
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I suspect a lot of that comes down to pure and simple, economy of scale.

Large posts and beams are a 'custom' thing that can be sourced from only the larger, straighter logs. Dimensional lumber on the other hand can be carved out of nearly anything these days with the computer controlled sawmills we have today.

We are lucky in that we still have a large bush lot and our own little sawmill to make whatever we need, others are not so lucky. Case in point, my FIL is rebuilding his dock at the lake, it was built using rough cut timbers on log cribs full of rock. He went to the local lumber yard to order 4 pieces of beam, each one being 6"x8" and 30' long. They quoted him $6 a running foot, or $720 for 4 beams. In comparison, 'making' them by laminating 2"x8" boards would have been only a little over $200 for all of it.

Likewise, in a stick frame building, there is more labour, but the materials cost far less so in the end it's a cheaper way to go.

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 07-17-2009, 10:32 Post: 164148
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Probably 10-15 yrs. ago an aquaintence of mine had a steel clad pole shed built. I happend to stop by when they were setting the poles. The poles were simply three 2X6's spiked together on site to form a pole. They had a kid painting some kind of green stuff on the bottoms that would be in the ground. I haven't been in the shed since it was built, but drive past once in a while, the eveline still looks level. Frank.






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 07-17-2009, 12:21 Post: 164151
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They had a kid painting some kind of green stuff on the bottoms that would be in the ground.



Frank, that 'green stuff' is chromated copper arsenate (CCA), as the name suggests, it contains a derivative of arsenic, this is what prevents rotting, it is toxic to the mould and such.

It's also why 'green wood' has been widely banned.

There's a local builder who uses a slightly different twist on 'poles' for buildings, he sets pieces of used concrete utility poles, they're formed under very high pressure, then uses steel collars to connect the wood column to the top of it.

The theory is there is never any wood in contact with the earth.

He apparently got the idea from an old idea of putting a piece of used railway tie in the bottom of a hole sideways, then setting the post on top. It acts both to spread the weight out, and to transfer creosote as a preservative.

I don't think he's been doing it much more than about 15 years or so but to date I've never heard of anyone having a problem with any of his work.

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Most contractors I have talked to have said there is very little cost difference between a pole building or a stick building. Since I am building mine myself, I am going with 2x4 walls. This will make it easier to insulate with a thick type insulation.






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