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 02-24-2004, 09:37 Post: 77773
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Actually it's funny you bring up the automatic/manual question.

I was at the Hino (Toyota's big truck division) truck dealership the other day pondering 6 new wheels. I was looking at the new Hino conventional. They have a 5 ton conventional (9' cab-to-axle) with a turning radius of just 25 feet, thats impressive for a cab-over, never mind a conventional. But I digress, and drool.

The salesman brought up the subject of automatic transmissions, they also sell Frieghtliners. He says that behind air conditioning auto. trannys are the number one option now in tractor-trailers. The technology has evolved to the point now where they are as efficient and cost effective as a manual gearbox to run. In fact in stop-and-go situations they beat a manual hands down.

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 02-24-2004, 10:02 Post: 77776
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Big trucks. Maybe.

One family member has replaced the auto tranny in his Ford F250 4 times and another family member is on his third auto tranny in his Dodge half ton and it is ailing.






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 02-24-2004, 10:20 Post: 77777
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My brother went through four auto trannies in his GM in the first 30k miles and he drives like an old lady. I'd much rather have a stick since they're cheaper to buy, cheaper to fix, and you don't have to wait for the stinkin thing to downshift but in some trucks they're getting hard to find. Mark, I think on the Tundra you have to take an auto if you go for the V8. Is that right?






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 02-24-2004, 10:32 Post: 77778
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I've heard isolated instances of people having problems with auto transmissions on all makes. I also have heard of allot of people that are totally happy and pull big stuff around without trouble. My neighbor has a 93 Dodge 4X2 diesel that he uses exclusively for towing a house trailer all over the country (mostly Michigan to Texas to California to Washington and back through Colorado to home). He has 135,000 miles on it without problems. Usually, once you have trouble it can often reoccur. A totally new one will usually put an end to it. Getting the factory to replace it is difficult.

Some manufacturers and models recommend towing in overdrive, others don't.

On F250's & F350's you can also rip out the front ends if you try hard enough with the diesel option. Real heavy loads, through plowed fields and turning sharp so the wheel is locked, again and again and again can do it sometimes!

Manufacturing tolerances on all of the parts are very precise. I can't unstand why some have problems, others don't.

I've heard the Allison transmission in the GM HD series is the strongest in the industry. That's according to GM ads.






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 02-24-2004, 10:46 Post: 77779
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Ken, the Tundra V-6 is available with a 5 speed manual and you are correct that the V-8/Auto is a package.






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 02-24-2004, 13:12 Post: 77787
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Wonder why Honda doesn't build a truck?
Do they offer one over seas?

Love Our Accord "runs like a timex"






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 02-24-2004, 14:03 Post: 77790
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I think that the Toyota concept is interesting, but I don't think it would suit me. As for all the bashing of GMC trucks, here is one happy owner.

I have had good luck with my American trucks. It also seems that the more I take care of the trucks, the luckier I get. My '92 GMC K2500 has about 90K short trip miles. Those are tougher on a truck than long trips. It has a 5.7L with auto and limited slip. It tows my 10,000 GW trailer. The truck has been fully maintained and has run mobil 1 since breakin. (It does not use a drop of oil between changes.) The only two long trips that the truck has taken is when running as a support truck on the Baja 1000 two times. That means that it runs on the race course with the racers, but is not racing them and can get off when necessary. Automatic transmissions do better at getting power to loose ground just like the arguments expressed here about HST on tractors. I will buy a new hauling truck someday, but this one has not quit or even slowed down. Its paint is dull, it has Baja racing stipes down the side (those scratches that you get running the truck through a gap in the pucker bushes that is five inches narrower than the body), it's gas milages sucks when towing, and it is geared so low that it doesn't like to go much above the max speed limit here which is 75 MPH. I don't know why this has been such a good truck, but it has. Incidently, it was built in Canada.

The only two problems that I have had with the truck have been minor electrical problems. These have probably been related to the off-road bashing that it has taken over the years. I think that I did replace the water pump a few years ago, but I consider that normal maintenance. It still has the original valves. It is on its fourth set of tires. It has been hit by other people in cars three times, and it only has a small blemish in one bumper.

I used to run a Toyota SR4 with 4 sp manual in Baja. It was a pretty good truck. But, I did have to rebuild the transmission a few times. Toyota had a design flaw in the tranny that caused bearing failure. I got to where I could park it on Friday evening and have it back together ready to go for work on Monday morning. One time in Baja I had a complete lighting system failure at around midnight. Believe me when I tell you that these are not skills that you want to develop. The one very good thing about the Toyota was that it was simple enough that you could repair it in the middle of the desert if you did not crack something. Most cars today can't make that claim.






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 02-24-2004, 14:12 Post: 77792
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Michael, the truck is just so happy to be down there in the warm weather and out of the snow that it is on it's best behaviour that's all.... ;->>>

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 02-24-2004, 14:19 Post: 77794
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One thing that is certainly a factor is that we don't use any type of salt on the roads here, so corrosion of the body is not much of a problem. (I used to live outside of Chicago, so I do know what that is like.)






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 02-24-2004, 15:45 Post: 77805
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Murf, I think you hit on a major point. It's a little
more demanding of a vehicle when the temps are 30 below.
(not wind chill). Starting and cooling off several times a
day in that weather yr. after yr.is a good test of quality.
Not to mention the sand and salt and slush and ice,and the
frost heaves and mud, and and why am I living here?






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