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 09-28-2007, 13:48 Post: 146218
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Murf,

I went to the Pacific Energy website looking for a dealer in my area. I was surprised to find one so close......hehehe.

712 miles....or 12 hours and 16 minutes from here, in Waco, Nebraska.

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 09-28-2007, 13:58 Post: 146219
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Joel, if I had only known......

I flew to BC and back this past weekend and went right over your head on the way home.

I would have gladly dropped one off on the way back.

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 09-29-2007, 11:40 Post: 146249
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I checked out the LOPI at a dealer and they had nothing that would fit. The setback of the flue in our Heat & Glo EM48 fireplace is 16 3/8" measured from the fireplace face to the center of the flue and none of the brands he carried (LOPI, Regency and Vermont Castings) would fit even with flue offset adapters.






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 10-01-2007, 10:20 Post: 146334
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Ken, I don't quite understand the issue, is the top of the firebox really low?

In my case I have the opposite problem, the insert is in a double-sided fireplace that is 6' deep from face to face, so the flue is about 36" back from either face. When they put it in it was a long way back to the flue, but it was also a long way up, they just ran the SS flex-pipe back and up the flue. It has been there for a long time now with no issues at all.

My only problem now is that I am trying to fit a second liner into the single flue tile in the chimney in order to put an insert in the back side of the fireplace which faces into the family room.

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 10-01-2007, 10:54 Post: 146338
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According to the LOPI dealer the top of the fireplace is too low to fit the flue offset adapter on top of the insert. He said even if they made it work it would never draft right. The Quadra-Fire looks like it may have the same problem but not to the same extent. I don't fully understand the issue since our existing fireplace was the biggest Heat & Glo unit made when it was installed and it seems like there would be a lot of room to work with. The guy is coming out to look over the installation prior to finalizing a price and I'll ask him how they intend to handle that.






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 10-01-2007, 12:24 Post: 146354
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Ken, depending on how your hearth and the surrounding area is set up it may not be much of an issue.

I've seen many retrofits where the same problem as yours existed, all they did was leave the stove protruding more than in a 'typical' installation. In more than one case they even had trim kits to account for this problem.

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 10-01-2007, 12:33 Post: 146358
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Ken,

Do you have to have an insert or could a wood stove be used? I know some people prefer the aesthetics of the insert. My brother in law wanted the stove but the wife would not have it. Either way its the warmth that counts.

I am always struck by how my wife has become such an advocate for the stove now that we have one. To her its a must have, and when I say I am not going to burn so much wood this winter she turns and says "hold on a minute there, what did you say?"
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 10-01-2007, 12:57 Post: 146363
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We would have to heavily modify the raised masonry hearth and hardwood floor to make a standing wood stove work. As it is a hearth extension will be required on the wood floor to meet code and we haven't found one of those that looks good. I may have to make one. An insert can be made to work but we would prefer minimal hacking. It will be interesting to hear what the site survey guy says.






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 10-01-2007, 13:00 Post: 146365
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Kw...Forgot you did not have a masonry fireplace, but would think since you have 16 3/8 inch from the front fireplace to center of flue that you could push in an insert to fit or line up with the flue and not be flush with the outside of the fireplace. The Lopi freedom is 21 3/4 inch high and the flue sits back 5 5/8 inch on center from the back of the insert. I never used the outside kit to go around the insert, i used bricks and pc of granite to close off the look of the draft pipe and got more heat that way. Good luck.






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 10-01-2007, 14:19 Post: 146370
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Ken, when my (now ex) in-laws put in an insert they, like you, got forced into compliance with the new setback to a flammable floor covering.

All the installer did however was remove a section of the hardwood floor by outlining it with a router and then removing the interior of the cut-out then laid in an area of slate tiles.

The whole process only took about an hour to do.

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