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Hey ya'll, hope everyone is doin fine!
I need your experiance a bit. I am trying to decide when and what to use for my upcoming project. I have an acre of what some, may refer to as, "pete bog". Tag adlers on top of clumps of soil and a soupy mess in between the clumps of tags. If anyone knows what I am saying and can describe it better (I am in Northern Wisconsin) go for it. (This is the same project that I was working on last spring before my health gave way again) Now that I am mobile again I need to know what time of year would be best and which piece of equipment to use?
1)winter , hopefully before alot of snow comes but after it freezes OR
2) Summer, this summer we have had near drought conditions and this area is still a bit slushy but is considerably dryer.
I am going to excavate a small watering hole but not more than 4' deep, The spoils will be deposited in the same area and leveled out. The water hole will be around a 1/4 to a 1/2 acre dia.
Should I get a back hoe in here or a dozer? My question also is which piece of equipment is less likely to get burried and at what season?
I have both options but wanted to ask the pro's.
The dozer would be ideal, with its leveling capability's and since I am only going 4' down but, after he gets thru the frost it will be like soup agaon till he bottoms out?
OR does the back hoe do a better job of floating over this crap?
Thanks ya'll
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Thanks Earthwrks
My bad. that is what I mean't. Back hoe=wheels, excavator=tracks Right?? .
So what time of year would you think be best? This is what I was planning to do. (Last spring wife and I started clearing by had the tags, I made it about 30' wide by 100' long before the heat cooked me out (unusual 80 deg day). Also knew I would not finish that weekend so I quit .
I have 2 guy lines up to help me. I was gunna have one hand cut the tags while me and my other buddy hand haul them out of this aera to a landing (dry one) This way here I dont have a huge mess in my future yard/water feature.
We were thinking of doing this over deer hunting (end of Nov.) Want the machine to come in right after us? With the excavator, you think it dont matter what the ground conditions are?
Im gettin excited now, thanks earthwkrs! (PS) I am bear hunting this weakend and will be looking at this spot all weekend from a tree stand)
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Great advice! Thanks alot fella's I am headin out there this weekend to do some bear hunting. I think I will take your advice and look up an old friend that has a excavator. He done all my digging for my house and my pond, I know what he can do but he also is not affraid to charge a good penny. In the long run I will be way ahead to hire it out as long as I can get what I WANT from the operator. (EW) yes your right, wont be near the fun but, the older I get, the less running machines is fun? I kinda like watching a real pro WORK his rig! I know I know, sounds a bit wimpy, but, there is just something about watching a profesional work his machine that turns me on! In the mean time, I can keep pointing to where I want things .
EW, I am waiting for the optimum time to buy the skidsteer. As soon as I start excavating for the house, I will pull up with a brand new skidsteer, guarenteed! (I have 3 kids entering college in 4.5 years and I promissed each of them a 25 thousand dollar bill to help em out. I have 2 of them paid off and I am working on the last one now, ahemm, my skidsteer will have to wait till the ground breaking, per the ceo)
Thanks again
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PS. there are no tree's larger than 2" dia in this area.
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I had previously always called them Tags, or tag alders, untill my last post where I called them (trees under 2".
Yes your skidsteer could handle them, yes my tractor and brush hog could also but the problem comes in again that my tractor would be burried before I could get anywhere near em. Pulling em out is not an option either since they are so small, a quick whack with a chain saw and all that is left is a ball of root system that is above the muck. This is where the excavater with a blade on it should come in handy. The idea of hand cutting and then stacking in a neat pile to be hauled away later is to avoid a huge pile of sticks,twigs, root balls
and a ugly eye sore that can be burned but still will be there for a long time. I dont mind
hauling em out by hand (since anything els with wheels woulkd get stuck.
Jis thinkin, maybe if I luck out, and the watering hole get low enough to suck most of the water over towards it that adding the spoils to the other part will help lift it high enough to make a perfect wetland/sanctuary that will not be used for a back yard football game but more like a nesting area ande cover for many birds/ mammels etc. The end picture is to have a pretty looking watering hole with grasses and cattails surrounding that from the ridge will look structured, yet still semi wild/natual? This place is set up perfect for this and if it works I will post pics. I am calling the guy with the excavater tomarrow.
PS. I had 2 bear (only 160# 1 1/2 year old bears) less than 45 foot from me while I was on the ground. Pretty cool, I was waiting for my son to get out of his tree stand when the bears came walkin in. I got some pretty cool video of it! Yes, I had nothin in my hand but a camera. My kid had just unloaded his gun and was about to come down! Did not see any bear that were shooters yet but this weekend was the bomb with what happened
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