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Points given: That can influence ride when empty.
- Tongue height. I like to select a reciever that is level when empty. If like you say it gets better when loaded, it may be a little low and as the springs flatten out it improves.
- Tongue weight. If you do not have enough tongue weight when empty it can get better with load. If the trailer is light it does not have enough mass to sway the truck only bounce.
- If this is a new trailer I would check the alignment of the axels on the dual axel trailer. Like the alignment on the car tire scuff can cause the tires to bounce and through the trailer in odd directions when hitting a bump. We used to see this problem a lot in the Easy Loader type boat trailers as the axels are bolted on with U bolts and can slide if they loosen up.
- Wheel balance, you can check but in general I have not had much feed back to the truck. Sometimes to the determent of the tires.
- Do you have the towing package on the 150? My F150 towed the equipment trailer fine.
- Tire pressure. I carry a tank with me and the pump. With an inverter you can run a AC pump also.
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Cornrow - I normally carry at least 2 recievers in the truck. If I am sitting 2 high or low I can adjust, by sliding in a different reciever. I do not carry the bar and socket for the 300 lb of torque.
I assume you are towing with a reciever as the bumper will not carry the weight. If you get that much weight on the bumper you will find it flexes adding to the feed back to the truck.
WW - There are considerable differences in the laws in the States. For example I can tow a trailer with a trailer here and people can ride in a fifth wheel here if they have communication with the driver.
Murf has numerous trailers and probably thousands of miles more towing experience than either of us. He works in the States and Canada so has experience with multiple States and Provinces. It is not just a few truck and trailer combinations it is the set up of many.
I was a marine mechanic when I was in High school and we had a dry land boat yard. I learned to drive with a trailer before I learned without. We sold boats so set up numerous boat and trailer combinations. Despite this fact I have learned a few things from Murfs posts on trailers.
As I have written a few books and scientific articles in my time, not everything in the article or book is the truth or fact. I have a couple of college texts with my hand corrections all over them. If you find an expert with an analytical mind like Murf, he generally will not steer you far wrong.
His statement, the higher you raise the tongue of the trailer the less feed back you get to the truck is true, but I have moved empty boat trailers like this and they jump like a bucking bronco. His example was to push it to the extreme. In reality we are talking of an inch or two.
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WW and Murf.
With dual axel trailer the tongue weight increases as you increase the tongue height. You transfer the pivot point from the front axel to the rear increasing the load on the rear wheels and the truck. You lift the front wheels and lower the rear.
You need a lot of weight just on the rear of the trailer, like a dump trailer as Murf mentions a while back, to over come the additional unloaded weight of the two and a half feet of trailer, wheels, axel and fenders.
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Cornrow;
I am trying to remember whether I did the same think with the F150, in terms of buying another receiver heighth drop for the equiment trailer and getting a bouncy ride with the one I had for the boat. It has been so many years. I lost the F150 in 99. The with the Dodge dually you don't even know it is there.
Let us know how it works. We had better close this thread before I have to step between cousin Murf and WW.
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The position of the wheels on a boat trailer depends on the weight distribution of the boat. Most modern trailers you move the axel to adjust the weight distribution. As many boats have the engines in the rear the wheels are back on the trailer. Something like a Ski Nautique with the engine the center have the wheels on the trailer closer to the center.
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