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 02-02-2007, 09:19 Post: 139481
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 What CHP told me on transporting CUT

I'm going to respectfully suggest that the CHP officer you spoke with is slightly mis-informed.

Load safety is a good thing, but common sense, logic and physics are better.

"Cargo security" as they call it, is covered by both the FMCSA (Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration) regs. (ยง 393 mostly) and State laws, but in every case I've seen, the State laws either refer directly to the ICC reg. or are merely a photocopy of it. This is for uniformity. There are lots of differences, as to axle spacing, load limits, etc., but nothing that affects a CUT on a trailer behind a pickup.

What the reg's say is that the load must be "adequately and securely" bound to the trailer.

A 4 point hookup is somewhat of a wives tale. If the left side comes loose, the load will be PULLED out of position by the fact that the right side has no opposing and equalizing force.

The regulations require that enough "approved" binding devices (chains & binders or straps) be used to adequately restrain the load.

That means the "safe working load" of the binders, times the number of binders, must exceed the weight of the object so secured. Period.

I have had arguements on the side of the highway with enforcement officers about this all across North America. I have a photocopy of the FMCSA regs in each of our trucks, several times they saved our bacon.

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 02-02-2007, 16:38 Post: 139498
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EW, that's why I ended my post with;

"I have had arguements on the side of the highway with enforcement officers about this all across North America. I have a photocopy of the FMCSA regs in each of our trucks, several times they saved our bacon."

If you do a google search for "Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration" and then on their site search for "Cargo Security" or else just go straigh to the regs., you are looking for Sub Section 393 and in that area.

Cut & paste it, print it, keep it in the truck, and when you get soemone hassling you pull it out, and VERY politely point out the word FEDERAL, and ask them if they have the authority to over-ride Federal law?

In most cases they read a few lines and tell you to go on down the road, but don't let them catch you again... snicker.

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 02-08-2007, 11:49 Post: 139649
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Same up here Harvey. There was a big push on a few years back after some duals came off in traffic, to clamp down on big trucks not up to snuff.

After the got that issue straightened out, and got the junk either fixed or off the road, they started to look farther down the list, and rightly so.

I was speaking with one of Provinces top enforcement officers with the Provincial Police, our version of the State Troopers, at an industry trade show and he said they have told the front line officers to focus on pickups starting this year, particularly those pulling trailers, and landscapers and contractors in particular.

He said the will be focusing on safety above regulations, but wont turn a blind eye to a big violation of ANYTHING unsafe.

It's about time, if I have to play the rules, so does everyone else.

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