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 05-22-2009, 21:54 Post: 162894
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I don't use Roundup anymore per se, but I do use something I picked up at Lowes. It's good for a whole season, and they ain't kiddin'. In fact I put it on last year about this time and some of it is still working. Roundup takes too long to activate and doesn't last long--maybe a week or so. And it's not that much cheaper than the seasonal stuff.

Murf did I spel everthing right?






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 05-25-2009, 11:27 Post: 162949
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Murf did I spel everthing right?



You shoor enuf did. Wink yeah right

There's a bit of a difference between Round-up and the other stuff.

Round-up (glycosulphates) were designed for agricultural use, i.e. to knock down vegetation prior to planting a food crop, therefore long life in the soil is not a desired result. It is intended purely to kill what it's sprayed on, then biodegrade rapidly.

If you want long lasting result there is other stuff much better suited for that.

Best of luck.






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 05-25-2009, 21:24 Post: 162963
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So I have to wonder, being the tinker that I am, what the perfect mechanical weed trimmer would be, if there is such a thing.

BTW, I experimented with replacing monofilament poly "string" with thin, stainless marine cable, and solid steel wire. I was amazed that neither lasted more than a few seconds around landscaping rocks. But it would be cool to use at night with all the sparks it made!

When I get some tinker time, I'm going to experiment with steel-corded rubber products as in car tires. My thinking is the poly string doesn't wear down as quickly on adbrasive things like rocks because it bounces off or absorbs shock before it has a chance to get abraded. With that in mind, I think rubber-encapsulated wire found in tire treads or lower sidewalls sliced thin in the shape of a flat, 2-bladed propellor may just work. I think it may be the best of both worlds--resilientcy(sp) of the rubber to bounce off rocks, and the constant sharpness of the wire inside to do the cutting. If you've ever ran your hand around a worn tire with just ONE exposed wire you know what I mean!






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 05-26-2009, 08:23 Post: 162966
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The perfect mechanical weed trimmer would be a self-charging robot. It matters not whether it uses a string trimmer or a samurai sword.






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 05-26-2009, 08:27 Post: 162967
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For string work I go with the $99 cheapies because they all need service after two or three seasons, and for the cost of repairs/parts/adjustments I just replace it. Where I need a brush blade I use a high-end brand.






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 05-26-2009, 08:36 Post: 162969
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EW, those prefect trimmers have been around for years..goats. On Roundup, could be the applicator it sure last longer than a week for me. Normally we would have made an application earlier than we did but have more area we are spraying this year and then boy the rain. So Sad We sometimes have to make a second application but that really is it. Realize our grass is growing from about Mid March to at least first of October. We do not spray until normally about first of May. Depending on what you are trying to control 2-4D does a good job also.


Murf, the soil killers or sterilizers; will they harm plants whose roots are where you place the chemical? Or will they only kill the band you spray?






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 05-26-2009, 09:21 Post: 162972
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Jeff, there's a trick to it, you need to either silver solder or braze the ends of the stainless steel cable before you use it in a string trimmer.

We have commercial walk-behind units that are made using a vertical shaft lawn mower engine and they run the same thing, very fine stainless steel cable with the ends soldered.

Kenny, I couldn't tell you, the only stuff we use is glycosulphates, mostly to kill off the fields before planting a new crop of turf.

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 05-26-2009, 15:07 Post: 162977
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Thanks Murf.






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 05-26-2009, 18:06 Post: 162979
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Murf when you "ends" --how much of it? Comparatively, how long does the cable last versus poly?






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 05-27-2009, 09:12 Post: 162986
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Jeff, about the last 1" of the steel cable is brazed or silver soldered. I've seen more than that done, but it looses a lot of it's flexibility, at that point it acts more like a pivoting bush hog blade than a piece of line.

You need big horsepower (3+ hp) to run that type of line.

They seem to last about a season if you can keep from hitting rocks or other hard stuff. Wood and brush doesn't seem to bother them much, but the hard stuff breaks up the hard end and they unravel.

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