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 11-07-2006, 17:22 Post: 136698
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My entry level deer gun at age 12 was a borrowed 20 gauge shotgun with slugs. Got a deer that year too! I think it depends on where you hunt. I was in the midwest where the long range shot doesn't exist. Currently, every hunter in the household and and at deer camp uses a .50 caliber muzzleloader. That may be a bit much at 12, but a .45 caliber muzzleloader would probably be ok especially if you knocked the powder charge down.

I guess I'm saying I'm not familiar enough with the .308 to really offer an opinion on it. I typically would start on a gun with limited range and accuracy to develop that experience in waiting for a good, clean shot.






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 11-07-2006, 19:47 Post: 136701
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A .308 in a bolt action will have a fair amount of kick. Some Savage models have better recoil pads (i.e. ones with cross holes that are more flexible than the solid pad).

Some models have front sights and others don't. Is he going to be shooting scoped? Think he should grow up knowing how to use both, however, high mounted scopes allowing you to peek beneath for open sights is not handy as a young man.

I prefer semi-autos since they have a little less kick and faster shooting and also prefer the .30-06 cartridge since it has to be one of the most popular ever made. I also like .30-30 lever guns. Less kick and easy handling all about 6 1/4-6 3/4 pounds like the Savage bolt actions.

Bolt actions are usually the most accurate.

P.S. If your family genes indicate that your son will probably be tall, I wouldn't bother getting a youth model like the 10GY which is Ladies and Youth orientated. He'll outgrow it to quickly.

Suggest going used and purchase 2, one in a .22 to plink with and get lots of shooting practice and the other a higher power as you intended.






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 11-07-2006, 20:36 Post: 136706
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For an entry level deer rifle, the model 94 Winchester 30-30 can't be beat. It's light, easy to use, moderate kick and smaller stock for fitting a 12 year old.

The only concern I would have is make sure they know and I mean really know and understand gun safety, because the 94 has the open hammer that once cocked has to be let off if they don't actually take the shot. It's a bit tricky for a young hunter to learn.

Having said that, gun safety with any type of gun is critical, because you can have a problem with leaving the safety off on say a bolt action if you allow the hunter to walk in the field with fire in the hole....something I would never allow a young hunter to do.

And back to the beggining thread in this message, I would always start a kid with a BB gun and when he has demonstrated good sense and good safety habits, move him to a pellet gun and again on to the .22 when he continues to demonstrate good judgement. That may be at 10 for some or maybe 13 or 14 for others and maybe even for others never....






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