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High property taxes driving a new revolt
This is the type of subject thats gets me SO upset that I have a hard time putting my thoughts into typed words. I DO think we are being raped by our government/Politicians so the only thing I can offer is my version of the following statement from the first post.
"You DO want to strangle government, and you want to make sure that government IS unduly benefiting from unique circumstances in housing prices," )
David
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Just a thought, the government if it was a business would have had to file for bankruptcy over 100 years ago and the worst has been since!
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Art,
I represent that suppository remark, its kind of nice working for a company that makes it's own money.
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Where do I enlist?
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Let's be fair in Love Hate and War.
Property Taxes in Vermont, do NOT go to Government, they go to Schools and to the town. We Vote and each time someone says "Hey! we need to build New Town Garage" well the town share goes up and what the people keep forgetting is tha DAMN School System. When I was in H.S. we had 16 Superentendents and now the state has 66. Look at those budgets and then would someone tell what they do?
The Schools have Unions (N.E.A.) that stands between the Taxpayer and the recepeint of the taxpayers money. I mean the Union dictates to the taxpayer and yet the taxpayer is suppose to have rep[resentation. hmmmm. School Boards as worthless as tits on a Bull. They usually are taken over by the arministration of the schools and once in a while a memeber will take a stand. On election day, most people don't vote because they feel it isn't worth their time and meanwhile every School Official Votes, to protect their own paychecks. It ISN'T about Education any more it is about Benifits and retirement. We the voters have created our own beds and we can blame Government from now until Hell freezes over, but the one to blame is staring back at you in the morning when you shave.
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If you ask me, we don't even need public schools; these schools have become the worst investment of public funds since the space program. Just give me the 5 grand that I pay into the schools as part of my property taxes and let me decide where I want to educate my kid. I'd do a better job with education doing it at home than the half-baked "education professionals" do in public schools. We're all so concerned about our rights, but what about our right to our children?! They MANDATE that I give up my kid for 8 hours a day, they train him in anything but basic literacy and science and, as an added slap in the face, I have to pay for it myself!!
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Horse
The facts that the Dept of Education or the N.E.A. does NOT want you to know is that Home Schooled kids are scoring higher in S.A.T. Scores.
We have a school here that is for grades 1 thru 6 and has 270 kids and every day I drive by I have counted 86 cars in the parking lot, regardless the time of day. 86 Cars for 270 kids? wow! now add in bennies and Insurance etc.
Teacher's Salaries do NOt include Helth Insurance, Socical Security etc, those fall under Fringe Benifits so when you hear about a Teacher being paid $56000 per year (200 Contract Days) that doesn't include what is normally deducted from yours and mine Gross Pay.
The Education System is the BIGGEST MONEY sucking problem that we have, and we the STUPID TAXPAYERS pass their budgets year after year, because we feel our kids would suffer if we didn't. Plus they have us devided into Unions or Districts to make it harder for One Voice in One Town to be heard. We Vote for these changes, thinking they will be good and they end up biting us in the rear end.
VOTE Damn It, everyone needs to VOTE and be heard. EVERYONE, no excuses accepted, if Iraqis will stay in line to vote and be shot, then we can Vote here.
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Does anyone know how property taxes were imposed on residential dwellings that generate no income? What's the history of that? Now, I see the logic of taxing the land that grows timber or what have you. But how can a retiree on social security pay upto $10,000 in some parts of NJ, for a 3 bedroom ranch situated on a quarter of an acre? This is as bad and just as aggravating as eminent domain.
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Ding, ding, ding, ding! Kmart blue light special light flashing! You made the connection horse farmer! That was one of the reasons I posted this thread. Private property taxation is a form of eminent domaim abuse. The government forces you to allow partial ownership of your property at gun point (literally)without compensating the owner and then extorts money (again literally at gun point).
I will have to disagree on your comment about "Now I see the logic of taxing the land that grows timber or what have you." If you support this then you support taxing the "a retiree on social security pay upto $10,000 in some parts of NJ, for a 3 bedroom ranch situated on a quarter of an acre". The logic is to tax (read steal) money from property owners in as many ways and methods as can be gotten away with.
The point being that once dollar we have earned have been taxed, they cannot constitutionally be tax yet again. In this case if I buy land with my taxed income dollars, tax the land is yet again taxing my dollars which I have already paid taxes on. By the way......... income taxes are WAY unconstitutional as well; as is income tax witholding.
Kinda falls into the premise that we can all hang together or we shall surely all hang separately that I believe Ben Franklin mentioned.
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wingwiper,
your're absolutely right on SAT scores. In addtition to higher SAT scores I would add lower STD and pregnancy rates as well. Public schools were started in MA, I believe, and included strong religious traning as one of the primary objectives. how far we've gone...
Chief,
You're right on. I said I can see the logic behing taxing commercial properties, I didn't say I agree with that logic. On the other hand, only a man with a conscience of a thief (or a municipal employee) would see nothing wrong with taxing people who make no income on the thing being taxed. That was my point. But you're definitely right. I am personally for instituting "use taxes" as the ONLY form of taxation in the US. Drive on the highway? - pay a gas tax. Send your kids to school? - pay the tuition bill. Want to vote? - pay a poll tax. Want legal representation? - get a gun. (just kidding on the last one)
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