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OLIVER 1900 FWD
Joel, scrap is nearly record high here in the north east you might not like the way it looks but you might be sitting on a gold mine.
They have also cleaned all the older cars out of the auto yards for better looks for our visitors, now were building wind mills on every hill so we can run fancy power lines down to help those in NY city that don't choose to help themselves. I have to live within an hour of power plant but they can't! Go figure!
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Conadoarms, I think you can find a Detroit Diesel 453 near you if you look aroung. They were used in a lot of applications of heavy equipement. From logging to off road cranes. As Art pointed out there are noisy and did have a problem with running away and required an emergency cut off system also. Proper muffler and air filter does help with the noise. Worked for crane company for years that used the 453, Cummins 378, Cat 3208 and a Deutz. By far the 453 was the loud one and had lower torque than all but the Deutz which had none. If memory is correct they are a 2 cycle engine as you said. They was different valve set ups and such affecting the horse power and noise level. It started better in the cold here (20s above) fair. Cat was better. Cummins required help.
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I think an IH 856, 1256, 1066, or 1086 would fill the need you have nicely. They are good tractors and are a good bit less expensive than the other green machines (Deere) although a nice Deere 4250 or 4255 with a powershift trans would be a nice choice as well. These machines may a bit on the large size but to get to the weight you specify, they have to be on the large side.
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From my point of view that Belarus at $5k was a steal and for grunt or snow work would probably be a better choice.
The woods up here are full of them and as they age more are arriving by the truckload from other areas on a weekly basis, most sold before they ever get here.
Best of luck.
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When I was driving truck they used to call the old 318 a double breasted yamaha! As far as torque they basically didn't have any just like any other two stroke design compared to a four stroke.
I can't see hoe anyone can build a air cooled engine to produce torque without having extra electric fans to cool while lugging.
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I've got a road grader with a Detroit in it. I love the sound it makes--sort of like a combination of a locomotive under power and a jet engine. And the neighbors like the way it sounds too---well the ones that like that kind of stuff--they'll come outside and grin from ear to ear.
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Some of you my age may remember the portable feed grinders mounted on a truck that used to go from farm to farm grinding feed for livestock. The coming of the PTO powered grinder mixers in the 1960's was kind of the end of their era. On a cold winter morning you could hear the thing with it's distincive howl as it went around the neighborhood doing the grinding. It had a GM two cycle engine, the guy never shut it off between jobs, he would back up to your wagon of grain, hit the throttle and man the chickens woke up then. Frank.
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Some of my family had a summer place on the 'big lake' as we called it, Georgian Bay of Lake Huron, it was on the mainland, but there was no road into the compound, it was up the coast a piece from town in a sheltered little bay with a big island guarding the opening and forming a natural breakwater.
There was no electricity or telephone either, everything came in by boat, or across the ice in the winter.
I can still remember the sound of the supply boat from town, it was a little old tug from Thunder Bay that the local fuel oil company ran to tank fuel to the islands and out ports like ours, it also delivered just about everything since the same (extended family) also owned the local grocery store and lumber yard.
The old girl had a big Detroit screaming away below deck that vented up through an exhaust stack behind the wheelhouse, we could hear that thing coming for quite some time before she appeared around the corner. If the weather was good and old Rolly that ran her was in a good mood he'd ask if he could 'hire me on' as a deck hand for the rest of the run up the coast, and drop me back on the return trip. Usually that meant he was staying for dinner and a visit afterwards to.
I can still hear the sound of that ship.
Best of luck.
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Art White,
Scrap metal is worth a lot more today than it has been in the past, but I live more than 125 miles (one way) from the nearest scrap metal yard. I am not able to haul enough metal with my equipment to pay for the trip. I give away my scrap metal to the first person who shows up, and I'm always happy to see it go.
KThompson,
There is almost no industry where I live.......in fact there are very few people. The nearest stop-light is more than 40 miles from here. The nearest Burger King is 125 miles, one way. McDonalds is a bit closer, at 40 miles one way. It's nearly impossible to find any equipment of the type you mention in these very rural areas, as such investments would never pay off for the owner. I'm forced to look far and wide for most anything I need.
Murf,
The nearest Belarus dealer went belly up more than 10 years ago, when he discovered that farmers in this area weren't about to purchase anything that they weren't sure they'd be able to find parts for at some later time.
There may be a few Belarus tractors around, but I'm looking for something that I could purchase and resell as soon as I'm finished with it. The Belarus would become a permanent fixture around here, I'm afraid, should I ever bring one home.
To all.........
Thanks for the stories. The more I hear about this Detroit 2-stroke Diesel, the more I'd like to have one. I'll keep my eyes open for one of these Oliver 1900s, unless something else catches my interest first.
I've been working on this scrap pile, on and off, for more than 8 years. Another 8 years isn't going to hurt anything........but I'm afraid it could take that long.
I have a friend with a D-6 Cat dozer sitting in his trees. It doesn't run, and it doesn't have a blade attached. Maybe he'll let me tinker with the thing long enough to get it running. If so, I believe I'll have found the muscle I need to make short work of this mess.
I'll keep you posted.
Joel
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Joel, to a degree I envy you for where you live, not that much though! I guess I'm spoiled!
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