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 07-31-2009, 14:02 Post: 164509
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I posted this topic a while ago at Barrelpoint.

Well the vultures are back now that the wood stove season is over!

I got my son an AirSoft rifle a copy of the AK74. So I decided to give it a try on the vultures. The gun is electric and can fire single .2 gram or continuous.

I get as many as 12 birds up there at a time, the place looks haunted. The first time I sneak out of the house and fire at one of them, near miss and maybe a hit. They all take off.

They are pretty smart as when I don't have the gun they could care less about be screaming, honking the horn etc.. If I have the gun, even hide it behind me they are gone.

Nonetheless I am just not getting through to them that they are not welcome, maybe they need to lose a family member!

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 07-31-2009, 14:42 Post: 164512
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I guess us farmer types are better at dealing with birds than the hunting types. Laughing out loud

What you need is the same thing as I recommend to people with deer problems, it is a motion-sensitive lawn sprinkler called "The Scarecrow" and made by a company called Contech. Put one on your roof and the first few (very wet and unhappy) vultures that try to land will quickly spread the word to the rest of the flock that your place is not a good place to roost.

The other idea that works well is to merely make it either impossible or unpleasant to roost there. If there is some structure there, otherwise make up a frame and stretch fishing line across the area they roost, about 6" off whatever they sit on. This is too high for them to straddle, and creates a trip hazard for them. They will quickly abandon the place.

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 07-31-2009, 15:06 Post: 164516
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 Turkey Vulture Nuisance

Dennis:

To us gun nuts that is an AK-47 copy.

Where I come from, you dig the hole first and then use a real gun when shooting at them at ground level from raunchy bait or pellet gun on roof tops. Don't tell the neighbors!






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 07-31-2009, 15:27 Post: 164521
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... it is a motion-sensitive lawn sprinkler called "The Scarecrow" and made by a company called Contech.



Actually, I had two of those until I ran over one with the Kubota So Sad. Problem is my roof is really high, and has 11/12 pitch, and not walkable by an old guy like me!

I had thought of attaching it to the end of a ladder that I can get up to the second story, but not sure if the sensor would pick them up that far off. The other thing is the roof area is pretty large and several might be needed.

But clearly this approach of constant irritation is more sound!

Yooper, barring Murfs suggestion I have been thinking along your lines. If I use birdshot at 45% angle off my deck, if I have a house down hill from my deck, do I have to worry about bb's hitting their house? In NJ you have to be 400 feet from a residence to fire a shotgun.





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 07-31-2009, 22:41 Post: 164539
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In MA 500' from a residence, including your own I have been told.






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 07-31-2009, 23:36 Post: 164541
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Actually I think I miss spoke in NJ its 450 feet/






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 08-01-2009, 10:51 Post: 164546
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They say there is some beauty in every creature, but I fail to see it in the turkey Vulture.
I think that God designed them to be that ugly so we would appreciate how beautiful the rest of the birds are. Frank.






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 08-01-2009, 11:25 Post: 164547
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I found this article on shotgun safety zones:

"Those new to the sport of shotgun, clay pigeon and game shooting might perhaps think that the shot from a shotgun would go to exactly where it was pointed. A reasonable assumption, but it's not quite as simple as that. In fact, there are many variables that can effect where it lands. Here are a few pointers that will help those new to sport of shotgun shooting to understand the mechanics of a shot performance and thereby improve their skills, aim and accuracy.

A shotgun traditionally shoots above its point of aim. Typically, a shotgun will throw a pattern around 65% above the muzzles, thus ensuring you can see your quarry when you take the shot. Being as a shotgun is a smooth-bore weapon, it's effective range is heavily reliant upon the shell itself, and was never originally designed to kill at extreme range, say beyond 40-50 yards. Clays however, can still be broken at this sort of range and beyond, but will still be reliant upon the shell itself. Furthermore, there are other factors to consider at long range, being the 'drop' and 'drift' of the shot cloud.

The degree of elevation of the shot can also have some effect, as it would be travelling against the earth's gravity more so than a more level shot. Shotgun pellets can travel over 200 yards, and with a trailing wind, even further, hence the safety 'fall-out' zone of 300+ yards being the 'norm'. The effective pattern will have long gone at that distance, and will be merely, a falling shower, albeit still dangerous!

Generally, in normal calm weather conditions, most shot from a 28gm (1 ounce) shotgun cartridge, would fall within around 220 metres from the point it was fired, following winds can easily increase this fallout distance, so a minimum safety distance of 300 metres should be declared in any direction in which a shot could be fired. Make sure you do not shoot over bridleways, railways or footpaths, or towards any highway. Remember, even though you may be shooting safely and responsibly, you have a duty as to 'not cause distress' to non-shooters, the general public, and domestic animals!"






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 08-01-2009, 20:11 Post: 164556
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Dennis, if you want silent but strong get one of those strong sling shots that has pistol grip and rest on your arm and you can shoot a steel ball with them that will prossibly solved your issue. Doubt you will kill them but sure will sting them. Or bow and arrow with string on the arrow just in case you miss. Smile






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 08-01-2009, 20:29 Post: 164557
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The bald eagle has made a dramatic comeback in eastern Iowa in the last few years, it is real common to see them now. 20 years ago you had to drive to the dams on the Mississippi River to see them.
Being they are scavenger birds there are some who sit in an old dead tree across the road form our farmhouse watching me come and go. Being I have to use a walker to get around anymore they are watching for a free meal if I drop in the yard.






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