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 01-23-2004, 17:44 Post: 74883
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Murf
Do you use it for home heating?
I would definitely buy a new coal stove if I were to
pursue it. Do you have any comment as to cost comparision?
Presently we have an oiled fired BBHW system and woodstove in the basement.






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 01-23-2004, 19:07 Post: 74888
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I have a small coal /wood boiler tied into my oil fired BBHW system. It's been in use since 1977. My oil burner
will take over when the heat demand exceeds the coal fired boiler. I use hard nut size coal. Buying coal by the bag
is expensive. If you have storage room buy it by the ton.
You should be able to get it delivered. You will get more ash and dust with coal,and you will have to find a place for your ashes. I use them on my gravel driveway.






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 01-24-2004, 06:16 Post: 74913
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 01-24-2004, 17:56 Post: 74961
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This may be a silly question, but why? By the time you invest in the labor and equipment and the HHHUUUGGGEEE expense of insuring this in-home setup, you could be using LPG or NG without any of the loading or shoveling or... Just wondering if I missed something.






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 01-24-2004, 19:05 Post: 74968
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It's funny, I have never looked into gas.
I guess we are creatures of habit. Most people
here in maine seem to have oil fired BBHW with
a wood stove somewhere. I'll ask about it for sure
for the next house.






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 01-25-2004, 05:40 Post: 74988
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I'm not sure about prices in the upper mid west but here in Central NYS Natural gas has almost doubled in just over a year and propane is 1.25-1.40 a gallon+or- depending on the season. My Oil is locked this year at 1.34.

I use 300 or so gallons of heating oil and probably 200 of that goes into tractor. I burn 15 or so face cords. My full replacement home insurance is 400 a year.

So not counting my time, I heat this dump 3500+ sq ft 12' ceilings down stairs for about 350 at year, that includes all gas, oil and chain loops for cutting wood. We have neighbors that burned that much in just Dec and part of Jan this season.

I do like mufrs explaination of coal. I have a wood/coal furnace. In order to burn coal I'd have to change the damper system to a different style. I do not believe it is a good idea to switch back and forth between wood and coal in the same stove.

The other big draw back to coal is: if you get a couple of warm days mid 30's I'd have to start opening windows you just do not shut down coal very easily.






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 01-25-2004, 18:33 Post: 75040
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I make the point about insurance because I'm shopping for a new company right now. All agents ask if I use wood for heat. Some only double the premium, some won't even quote. All have told me if I were to use wood and not inform them, no claim, heat related or not, would be paid! Just doesn't seem to be worth the hassle. I know on the East coast alot of oil is used, but locked to 1.34 for this year doesn't mean 3.41 next year.

I have natural gas at my home, $175 last month (fairly cold december) for house and 2 garages, but no cutting or shoveling or labor involved. Your labor time is worth something, isn't it?






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 01-25-2004, 20:06 Post: 75052
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I just got my Dec electric bill.

$649

Guess who is trenching for a propane line and tank?






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 01-25-2004, 20:11 Post: 75053
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Geez, Mark, what did you do? Light up the entire state for Christmas? If I could make a recommendation, does anyone in your area do blower door tests to test your house for leaks? You might check with your utility company. We cut our electric bill by 20% by spending $100 and a little time sealing things up, and I'm not talking about any big leaks either. Tiny things like plumbing penetrations on outside walls, casement window cranks, and recessed light cans add up.






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 01-25-2004, 21:02 Post: 75060
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Holy Electric Bill Batman!!!!!!!!!! Mark, are you serious about the electric bill???????? $649 !!!!! I heat my house almost exclusively with wood and use a small amount of kerosene. When the temps. are in the 50's or more, I use the heat pumps. During the winter, my electric bill varies between about $80 - $130. Either electric is hugely more expensive in Nevada than in Tennessee or you have a serious problem with a potential electric power loss possibly in something like a water heater or other high amperage device. Is your house well insulated? If I deliberately tried to use that much electric; don't think I could. I thought you were using wood to heat with since you got that huge cotton wood tree cut up? If you don't already have a wood stove Mark, I would strongly recommend a Fisher Poppa Bear woodstove if you can find one. The best there is. I have a Grandma Bear and a Fisher fireplace insert. Very good quality and heat output but also VERY heavy. You may want to look into a corn stove. Either of these type heating units would quickly pay for themselves at the current costs you are paying for electric.






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