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Would strongly recommend this book ( Insulate and Weatherize) by Bruce Harley Taunton's books Build Like a Pro. series. Barnes and Noble.
Do a little research on Moisture control and Air movement
in a house.
I thought I new a few things about building, I didn't!!
I have an Allnighter wood stove similar to a fisher.
These run about 45% eff. The new stoves run up around 75%.
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There is a ton of info out there on buiding science.
Make sure it's for your part of the country.
Chief, nothing wrong with a fisher, but after a few recent
trips the the stove shops researching coal,I've got an
antique in my basement.
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Grinder, our coal use is for a combination of both home heating and for heat in utility buildings.
In the houses, 3 of them, there is a combination of coal fired boilers and coal burning space heaters, two of the houses have cookstoves which also use coal.
The equipment is VERY old but still works like the day it was put in, which is both good & bad, dependinng on how you look at it.
Most of the coal consumed is the machine shed, our main workshop, it is 50' x 50' and is kept at a minimum of 50 deg. F. all winter long using a coal fired hot air unit. It is an extremely efficient unit, especially considering it's age. A magnetic thermometer on the flue pipe only a few feet from the unit barely ever moves off the end point.
Cost is lower than almost anything else we could use, especially as we buy in relative bulk. Years ago we built a 'bunker' for the coal, it is basically a building with a concrete basement but no floor into which the coal is dumped by opening a bay door and tipping the coal off the truck and into the hole. We get deliveries by a tri-axle dump truck. There is an auger built into the bunker which delivers coal to anything (wagon, truck, trailer, etc.) parked under it next to the building. We have a small wagon, like a grain bin, which is used to distribute coal around the farm with a truck or tractor, it gravity dumps into the coal bin at each location. The labour is minimal.
I think the slow steady burn of the coal makes for good efficiency, you get a lower heat output than say oil or gas, but it goes non-stop. You never get a fluctuation in temperature like with other types of heat, cold just as the thermostat kicks the burner on, sweating by the time it shuts off.
Best of luck.
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The $649 is about double compared to the previous december.
This Dec was colder and we had a lot of holiday company. So many that we had to activate (read: electric heat) a couple of travel trailers as overflow guest rooms. That plus all the extra showers and clothes washing/drying and running as many as 7, 1500 watt heaters in single digit temps...... well it all adds up.
The woodstove was going 24-7, but one stove in 3000+ square feet? Asking a lot.
The house has little or no roof insulation and I am constantly finding air gaps and cracks to be sealed.
Big projects upcoming: a new roof with high tech insulation and a new propane forced air system that will cover about 70 percent of the house. But first I have to excavate the old oil tank and run leakage tests on the soil below, and get a trench dug for the propane line through some mighty tough soil.
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Grinder - I used pea coal in my previous home. I made a wood 8x4x4 bin outside my house and had someone fill it before the winter. I liked the coal - was inexpensive enough, house was toasty warm, only had to stoke the fire twice a day. Unfortunately when I moved to my new home my wife wouldn't allow the coal stove. It creates white fly ash that adheres to your tv screen, computer monitors etc. Once the wife starts dusting the house she will want to get rid of the coal.
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Just thought I'd toss in my experience with insurance, vs. woodstoves, etc. After having been with the same insurance carrier for 30 plus years they seem to have lost intrest in insuring farm or rural property by lettinng their service to the customer slip to nearly nothing, so we went shopping for another carrier. We found a general agent who can write for four companies who specialize in farm and rural coverage. these questions were asked by all the carriers he writes for. First is about the woodstove, none would refuse to cover, but the premium wsa higher, second at a rural rental house we rent out the tennants had a trampoline in the yard, none of them would even write a policy till the trampoline went away, third was ponds or swimming pools, all would write a policy if the pond or pool were fenced and supervised, but the rates were thru the roof. We did'nt have a woodstove, the trampoline did go away, and luckily we have neither a pond or pool, so we basicly had our pick of which carrier we liked best. This is in the upper midweat, maybe other parts of the country or other states have different insurance laws. Just my two cents worth. Frank.
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Ncrunch
Did you have your stove in your living space?
I would have mine in the basement,do you think
that would make a difference?
I think coal may be too expensive here,180-200.00
a ton. Del.
Although wood is getting up there, to buy all worked
up for the stove 125-150.00 per. cord Del.
Been burning oil for 1.20 a gal..
Thanks for your input on the ash, I read that a ton of
coal will leave a half ton of ash behind. Would you
agree with that?
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Frank
Just had my insurance review,as most are getting one or will. Woodstoves in Maine isn't a big deal as long as 1)it's
not an old or older home.(no flu liner )2) You have a two
flu chimney.3) Woodstvove and furnace must be separate.
My 4 yr. old home runs about $550.00 per yr. for $200,000 replacement value. I don't think that is too bad.
Adding to your comment on pools and trampolines is the
dog issue.My agent showed me her list of 18 breeds, which
they won't write a policy if you have one. Could be a major
liability for some who don't disclose!
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Grinder; Subject, insurance/ woodstoves. Not one of the four carriers asked about dogs, but I'll bet that will become an issue here too. seems like every so often there is a news story about someones dog attacking a child. Back in the fiftys every small town grain elevator and lumber yard had several grades of coal on hand. There still may be some, but I've not seen a coal pile in years. Along with the bigger citys, most small towns now have natural gas, or if your farm is along the road where the gas main goes by you can hook up. I'm only guessing, but I'd say probably 80 percent of rural homes use LP and the rest are oil or wood. I haven't paid attention to LP prices lately, but we prepaid .89 before Sept. first for this winters supply. I remember our grade school had a big coal/steam heating system that burned stoker coal. When I was in the lower grades the janitor gave me a tour, ( no OSHA in those days ), of how the coal truck dumped the coal down a big chute into a bin that was probably 20 ft. square then an auger fed the furnace from the bin, I thought that was pretty neat. Frank.
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Murf you tug back a bunch of old memories. Any of those kitchen ranges named Kalamazoo? I split stove wood for 2 of them growing up. But do remember of some of the uptown folks that had coal fired kitchen ranges.
I'm thinking an outdoor furnace burning a wood and/or coal combination might be something to prusue.
Funny how different parts of the country are. Our insurance is lower because of the pond near the house.
But last time agent was at house to upgrade insurance and saw all the black dogs with brown markings he did give us a warning not to ever submit a dog bite claim. They would pay it but that would be the end of insurance for us by any carrier.
We did have a good laugh over probably never having to submit a theft claim and we did get a reduction for that. GO FIGURE!
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