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When I did my fence, I used 5" x 7' long wood posts, buried 2.5', every 10 feet. Some people will run every other one with a metal post. Others will have 2 metal, then one wood. My dad had a fence next to the road to keep people out and he had all metal posts and it worked great for that. Get the t-posts that have the flat blade on the bottom. Get long enough ones to get deep enough. Treated 8x8 work good for corner posts. I found limestone gravel tamps in great around corner posts. I used a 1/2" rod to tamp the dirt to the bottom, then a 1" rod to tamp the rest. You will want a good and heavy second from the end post to run your diagonal brace to.
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Perhaps you want to build your own fence as a something to do project, but I'll make another suggestion.
I used to do all my own fence work to keep livestock on the different farms but the last couple times I needed fence I found that contracting it out was less costly. There are two somewhat local firms here that do custom fencing. I've only dealt with one but I haven't heard anything bad about the other one. They furnish all materials, labor, cleanup, etc. for less money that I could have bought the materials only. You decide what type of fence, wood posts, steel posts, gates, three barb wires four, five whatever you want they'll give you na quote and have it done in a day or less. Look in your phone book for fence builders or check with your county extension office they may have a list of fence builders. Get a signed contract, and don't be afraid to ask to see their prior jobs, if they did it right they'll be glad to show you.
Frank.
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Realize you have no plans for animals but consider the fence past just keeping people out if there is possibility you will end up with animals what type of fence would then be needed.
In the mean time you may wish to place some no trespassing signs. Depending on the trash being dumped the locals may have interest in finding who dumped it and having them clean it up.
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We placed about 20 signs along the road, we are guessing the people around cant read. We now have approx. 50 well used tires to deal with. I still am not sure why we should not use landscape timbers for posts. Using landscape posts would allow us to have a taller fence cheaper than round posts. We used landscape timbers for a fence around our garden about seven years ago and today they are still solid. Thanks for the suggestions, keep em coming.
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Even with a fence it's not unusual to find old washing machines, kitchen stoves, matresses, etc., and just plain garbage in the county gravel road ditches outside the fence.
Some of the garbage dumpers weren't real brilliant, they put their old magazines with the address labels still attached in the garbage bags. They got to clean up the ditch and pay the littering fine both.
Frank.
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Someone dumped a big screen tv on a road by us. They called the manufacturer with the serial number and found the owner.
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If a gas line there's surely an easement. Terms vary but typically it gives them the right to go on it to do work, and probibits the placing on it of anything that would obstruct their access to it, such as a building. As for fences, they have stiles to climb over them, and are used to removing/restoring to get machinery in.
Fencing materials and construction depends on local conditions, the purpose, and sometimes local regulations. I agree you may find that professionals will do it faster, cheaper, and better than an individual can.
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On with the fence. We are new to new to owning land and would like some input about puting in wire fencing. We have 35 acres, approx 2000 feet of which run along a road that is not heavly traveled. That encourages people to dump, cut fire wood and just generally be where we dont want anyone. Fencing along the road is our main interest and later on maybe the other three sides. No animals to keep in yet. First question is where do we look for posts other than the big box stores? Can we use landscape timbers for posts, they are cheeper than round fence posts by a buck each. How about the metal t-bars, why not use them, cost is about same as round post yet seem to be easier installation. We have a tractor and a post hole digger attachment. Any online reference would be appreciated. Hopefull that is enough information to get this post started.
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I feel your pain!!! We HAD a similar situation in addition to what you mention, night time poaching of deer and partying was going on, not to mention who knows what else. These mutants were using the pipeline to gain access to our property. I continuously called and stayed on the supervisor for this section of pipeline who was intially not supportive of fencing it off........that is until someone set a very large fire. After very cordial phone conversation in which I explain the civil liability the pipeline company had for the fire, the fence magically appeared. It has a gate that stays locked. Things are not perfect now but MUCH MUCH better.
I suggest you talk to the superviser for the section of pipeline that goes over your property. Trespassing has become a HUGE national scurge and the pipeline companies are discovering that good fences make good neighbors. ATV and horseback riding are terrible errosion hazards which can lead to the pipeline being exposed on steep inclines. The fences go a long ways to stopping this problem.
If fact, now that a positive repour has been established, we mow the pipeline and plant it as a giant foodplot. The wildlife loves it and the pipeline folks have that much less to maintain.
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kthompson, I think, has a good answer to your repeated question about the landscape timbers--what, if any, animals are in the future for your land? You do not want to redo "inexpensive" fencing in the future when you find out it will not suit your needs--a good fence will save a lot of headaches in the future if animals are in your plans. Horses are destructive and will snap a lot of smaller wooden posts or potentially get hurt on steel ones.
I also agree--find some one to do it. My wife and I are looking into fencing a new pasture, and I think the cost of hiring someone to do it right will be worth it.
Just my thoughts.
Mike
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I think using landscape timbers for fencing is a bad idea. Timbers just are not rated to be submerged in wet conditions. The open end grain will wick water up like a straw. Ever pick up a timber that's been in contact with the ground for a season? It'll have earthworms and other bugs under and in it.
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