discussion   |   photos   |   email   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


Forum Index


New As Posted | Active Subjects



Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > John Deere Gator Forum

Page 1 | [ 2 ] |      << Prev
 
 09-14-2009, 13:12 Post: 165635
ofd727



Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Nebraska
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 8

7
Filter by User
 620 I Gator - getting fuel in crankcase oil

Thanks to all for the replies. To answer a few questions - the oil did smell of gas and unfortunatly I did not save it. It went into the used oil barrel. I checked the coolant and it was ok. The oil on the dipstick initially was so clean and thin it was hard to see. It must have cleaned out the crankcase well because the new oil since is still extremely clean. To Gatoraide - Thanks for doing some research. The injectors are being tested today. I hope I don't have to hone the cylinders every 18 months. That sounds like it might get pricey. Is the theory that the cylinders are glazed due to shorts trips/ putting around. Would a leak test indicate this or is it just at top of compression stroke as you said. Maybe I should trade it for a new diesel model.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 09-14-2009, 16:15 Post: 165643
gatoraider



Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Maryland
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 536

3
Filter by User
 620 I Gator - getting fuel in crankcase oil

I have talked to my friend again and he has shed more light on the subject. He said when he took the motor apart there was an unusual amount of carbon on top of the piston and around the combustion chamber. He also said he took a compression test before he took it apart and it was unusually high. He couldn't remember what it was but that it was high. He called Deere and asked if there was a high limit on compression and they said no. They only give the low limits. He also said the tops of the pistons were shiney charcoal black with alot of build up. My thinking is that all that build up would decrease the area in the combustion chamber and therefore increase the compression, possibly to the point of squeezing past the rings and into the crankcase. He also said that before he tore it down the guy would drain the bad oil out of it and replace it because he had to use the machine. When he ran it he said it was the fastest mower on the block. More compression, more power. Now, the fact that changing rings fixed the problem could have been a byproduct of cleaning all the carbon out of the cylinder, maybe getting the carbon out would have fixed it too. There are people at Deere that know about the problem but all they say is run it hard and get it hot. Keep the buildup to a minimum. He also said that he knew of one case where changing injectors helped, but the problem came back. I'm thinking that using the best gas available would be a good idea. It will be interesting to hear what your dealer comes up with.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 09-14-2009, 16:55 Post: 165644
ofd727



Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Nebraska
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 8

7
Filter by User
 620 I Gator - getting fuel in crankcase oil

They are scratching their heads too. I have gotten more information from you (Gatoraider) than them so far. I am still waiting for the verdict on the injectors. I will keep you posted.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 10-26-2009, 16:14 Post: 166541
dpintn



Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: United States
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 3

2
Filter by User
 620 I Gator - getting fuel in crankcase oil

Hey guys...new member here

Was searching the web for this exact same problem when i came across this thread.

My 620i has 89 hr. After you got it warmed up good it would all of a sudden blow out a huge cloud of blue smoke then quit smoking a short while then do it again.

I checked the oil and it was about 1 1/2 inch high on the stick.I also use mine for short trips.

Did you find out the cause of this? Thanks for any help






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 10-27-2009, 09:32 Post: 166557
ofd727



Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Nebraska
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 8

7
Filter by User
 620 I Gator - getting fuel in crankcase oil

Yes I think we figured it out. JD ran several tests on it searching for the problem. They replaced the entire throttle body on it. I have not put that many hours on it since but it seems to have fixed the problem. They said it was possibly an electrical issue with the unit causing the problem.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 10-27-2009, 09:47 Post: 166561
hardwood

TP Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: iowa
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 3582

4
Filter by User
 620 I Gator - getting fuel in crankcase oil

I had a chance to visit mwith a



I had a chance to visit with a Deere mower tech about this. He made no mention of changing the throttle body but did say they had a Gator and a couple Mowers with the gas/oil dillution problem. In all three cases two common things enmerged, non recommended crankcase oil and short run operation.
Our Gator use is sporatic, sometimes a couple hour run, then several five minute runs, but always have used the recommended Deere 10/30 Gasoline grade oil, and so far so good. Frank.











Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 10-27-2009, 09:51 Post: 166564
hardwood

TP Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: iowa
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 3582

4
Filter by User
 620 I Gator - getting fuel in crankcase oil

I forgot to mention, the Deere oil for the Gator is Turf-Gard.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 11-12-2009, 11:54 Post: 166829
dpintn



Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: United States
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 3

2
Filter by User
 620 I Gator - getting fuel in crankcase oil

Thanks for the help

Mine is in the shop now and they don't really know what to think about it either.

My warranty is out but in the back of the owners manual it states that 2008 and newer gators have an emmision warranty for 30 mo. This does cover the fuel system.

I'll let you know what they find






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page 1 | [ 2 ] |      << Prev

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > John Deere Gator Forum

Thread 165565 Filter by Poster:
AllisMan 1 | dpintn 2 | gatoraider 3 | hardwood 4 | kwschumm 1 | ofd727 7 |

 (advanced search)

Picture of the Day
Coachlarry

John Deere Gator - 1200A Secondary Cap Screw
1200A Secondary Cap Screw


Unanswered Questions

Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Horse Injured Polyrope Electri
Do electric fences keep out de
Any Peruvian Paso Owners Out T
gas powered post driver
My new born foal is really sic
Trailer Axle
dump trailer blueprints


Active Subjects

Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Went to see Dennis Reis this w
Signs to look for prior to lab
leg injury
Broodmare has welts all over h
Some Christmas Humor For Horse
poles in the ground vs. concre
ever thought about moving?


Hot Topics

new app owner
Some Christmas Humor For Horse
Any Peruvian Paso Owners Out T
Heating a Garage
Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Do electric fences keep out de
gas powered post driver
Trailer Axle


Featured Suppliers

Mountain Creek Labradoodles
      MountainCreekLabradoodles.com





New Forums on Gun Sport Shooting and Hunting -- BarrelPoint.com  New Forums on Horses ManePoint.com
Talk Horses at ManePoint
Hunting + Gun Sports at BarrelPoint



Most Viewed

+ JD Gator only runs with choke
+ Snapping noise in front and rear ends
+ Gator 620i gas in engine oil
+ What is Normal Compression
+ Gator 6x4 Overheating problem
+ John Deere Gator water in the oil
+ Is a Gator TS good for pushing snow
+ snow plow wiring
+ First Gator
+ John Deere Gator XUV aftermarket performance parts

Most Discussion

+ Gator 620i gas in engine oil
+ JD Gator only runs with choke
+ Snapping noise in front and re
+ First Gator
+ clutch motor
+ snow plow wiring
+ Just picked up a 2000 6x4 with
+ Gator won t idle
+ e gator power
+ John Deere Gator water in the

Newest Topics

+ CX Seat Coming Apart
+ 2007 620I to 850D
+ Clutch Weights
+ Rocker arm oiling on Kawasaki fd 620d Gator 6x4
+ AMT 600 Throttle Conversion
+ Water in oil
+ 1999 Gator Transmission Leaking
+ Fuel Tank
+ 1996 gator 4X2 smoking wire and no spark
+ Gator HPX ignition module
















Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines