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 11-26-2010, 18:55 Post: 175365
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 John Deere Gator water in the oil

If my dealer was to tell me I was adding water to the oil I certainly would know there was a need to change dealer.


Just as I sent my message above a thought hit me but certainly not likely for two of you, by chance could someone else be adding water to the oil trying to damage your Gator?






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 11-29-2010, 09:36 Post: 175413
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This may be a long shot but it may help to preheat air into the intake. My thinking is the warmer intake air may allow the engine to run warmer or the condensation that you are getting may be coming from the intake manifold.

I have an older Cub-Cadet lawn tractor that would just dump fuel through it in cold weather and found out that the carb actually froze up (accumulated frost on the outside) and the float would stick in the up position.

Suggest fabricating a shroud around the exhaust manifold that forms something like a "C" for about a 4-6" length. In the middle, cut a hole and weld in a nipple projects away that fits to a piece of metal flex tubing. Make a bracket that holds the shroud away from the exhaust manifold/muffler about 1/2" away and secure it to some existing bolt near the mounting point. The hose will be secured to the tubing with a hose clamp. Cut a similar hole in the side of the air cleaner housing and weld a projecting nipple to it. Connect the other end of the flex hose to it with another hose clamp. I chose about a 1 1/4- 1 1/2 diameter aluminum flex tubing.






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 11-29-2010, 11:53 Post: 175415
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Hi all.. I thank you all so much for your advice and help. I am the one who first asked about the problem with my Gator. I did as you said and it is for sure gas in the oil. I need to have the oil changed every month because it will start smoking so badly and just stop running. I will get it restarted and it burns off enough to work fine again for a few days. I was told not to use it with the gas in the oil so have it changed again. This is just crazy when you spend $13,000.00 on one and they will not help me fix it. I use it every day with my horses and would be lost without it and no help from good ole JD. Mine is a 4X4...






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 11-29-2010, 12:14 Post: 175417
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I suspected that it may be gas in the oil. The oil looks an odd color almost muddy. It lights easily with a match. When my Cadet had problems, it would run until the sump would get way overfull til it choked itself. It would sometimes run through a tankfull of gas in 15 minutes. There are several possibilities which are not that expensive to fix.

1.Your carb float or needle valve may be sticking or remain open and it is flooding the engine.
2.If it is a diaphragm style fuel pump it has a tear in it allowing fuel to pass over into the oil chamber.
3. If you are overfilling the oil level or driving diagonally over a sharp decline or ditchbank it could be sucking in more fuel.
4.Carb icing as I mentioned previously is another possiblity.






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 01-03-2011, 22:19 Post: 176186
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I'm not certain if mine is a parallel track but recently I've begun experiencing total loss of rpm and power when the engine gets loaded up either by an incline or through deep, resistant snow on the property. The revs go down, acceleration quits and the tail pipe starts billowing white smoke. Let it go back to idle and nurse it along in neutral to stabilize the power band, put it in FWD and it's fine until the next incline or obstacle. Billowing white smoke and loss of power. Any ideas? Oh, and the oil looks clear and not milky as is usually the case w/ h20 in the oil.






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 01-03-2011, 23:46 Post: 176189
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 John Deere Gator water in the oil

Jlames,

Check, clean, and/or change your fuel filter. Sounds like a typical case of fuel starvation.

There's likely just enough fuel getting through the filter to keep your tractor running, but not enough to provide you with full engine power.

Fuel filters should be cleaned or replaced about (check your manual) every 100 hours of operation, under normal operating conditions.

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 01-03-2011, 23:53 Post: 176190
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Thanks Joel. My first move in the morning.






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 01-04-2011, 21:33 Post: 176217
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Rather a combination of some factors. The Gator only has 83 hours on it but being used in the dusty environment of the ranch, fine dust gets in EVERYWHERE and the fuel filter was no exception. (Note: Dumbest connectors on the fuel filter I've ever seen. Effective but Rube Goldberg!!!) And a combination of less than quality fuel (thanks alot ARCO) with higher than average ethanol and water. Drain the tank of ARCO I just put in and add 5 gal of good old hi-octane Shell and she runs like a top. You learn something new every day so thanks Joel and everyone else on this board who have really interesting and knowlegable information to share. So thank you all






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 01-04-2011, 23:38 Post: 176218
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Jlames,

Being that the conditions in your area are so dusty, you may want to schedule a periodic cleaning of the fuel tank. Also, you may need to increase the frequency of the fuel filter changes.

Now....if the connectors on the fuel tank are anything like the ones on the fuel filter.....well, maybe not. Laughing out loud.

Glad you got it going again. Thanks for letting us know how we're doing.

Joel






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 06-07-2014, 12:14 Post: 190448
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 John Deere Gator water in the oil

Hello,
First time on Tractorpoint. I have a HPX Gator 4x4 gas.
I have already taken the steps I read in your post. The oil did not separate. I definitely have gas in my oil. I am also wondering if the electric fuel pump should run continuously or if it should pump up and stop with the key in the on position?

I would truly be grateful for any input.

Thank You,






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