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 12-13-2010, 13:32 Post: 175745
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You sure have been alot of help to me working on this, I greatly appreciate it!
Looking at the picture of the remote and relay, would I just wire directly from battery a positive (hot) and ground wire to (2) of those big connectors and then run the small wires to the pump? If so, then that does look easy! Have you ever ordered from this company before?






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 12-13-2010, 13:42 Post: 175746
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I'll see if I can find some numbers-info on the pump.






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 12-13-2010, 14:12 Post: 175747
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Ridetoslide,

Yes.....Surplus Center is a very good company. It's hard to beat their prices, too.

I'm very curious to know more about that pump of yours. Maybe a close-up picture of just the pump.....or even a few pictures of it......that would be great.

We'll get this done.....I promise.

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 12-13-2010, 16:37 Post: 175749
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on the motor it has this: CIM
PD-50F-1008 12V DC
414058
IGN PRO E-186696
062005

There are no markings at all on the hydraulic pump. I have looked and looked for info on the motor, very little luck. I'll see if I can get a close up of it.






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 12-13-2010, 18:44 Post: 175753
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 snow plow wiring

I prolly missed it...but if there is only one switch--you can choose only one function: either to make the plow go left or right--OR--up and down, but not both.






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 01-08-2011, 18:53 Post: 176289
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I'm making progress, I think. I ordered a switch and 2 relays from the dealer. The switch only has 3 spade connectors, not like the one you linked to ( double pole dbl throw). The relays are the same: pin 85 and pin 86 power the coil, and pin 30 has it marked as common, pin 87 is normally closed and pin 87a is open. I have tried all kinds of combinations and can not figure out how to wire this thing. I wished it was like the link you sent over on the first page. Have any clue how to put 2 relays and a switch in there? I'm figuring one relay is up, the other is down, then somehow polarity has to change to reverse motor. This wiring is gonna drive me nuts Smile






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 01-08-2011, 19:23 Post: 176292
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Ridetoslide,

Thanks for stopping back. I was wondering how things turned out for you. Sorry to hear you're still having problems. I'll see if I can help.

Common......think of that as a ground connection. Fasten that wire to a ground point.

The other two wires are for Direct Current power (DC). One is hot, the other is neutral. That will make the motor turn in one direction. Switch the polarities on those two wires......make the neutral hot and the hot neutral......the motor now spins in the opposite direction.

Your relays are in the circuit for only one purpose. The current draw by the motor is too much for the switch to handle. Your switch, therefore, is only for powering the coils on the relays.

I'm not sure how your switch is labeled. Do you have an 'up' and 'down' switch? Maybe you have two switches?

You can wire the switches to reverse by simply changing the wires. If, for example, you want to raise the blade but the blade goes down, just switch the wires around.

I have a Lorenz snowblower with a DC reversing motor on the chute. It works under the same principle. Lorenz has a nice wiring diagram on their website. I'll post a link to it below.

Maybe this wiring diagram will help you.

After clicking on the link below, scroll down to Page 2. You'll see a very nice schematic there.

Hope this helps.

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 01-08-2011, 20:20 Post: 176294
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I'll reply quick then take a peek at your link. I have 1 switch that is for up and down. It is spring loaded so depress for say up, then relaese and it goes to the middle position.

85 87a 87
} /
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86 30

This is how the relay is, sorry for the lousy symbology. The coil is energized by 85 & 86. 87 is held normally closed until you give it some juice, then it goes over to 87a.


My switch like I metioned has 3 connections marked 4 on the top,5 in the middle, 6 on the bottom. Now I'm gonna go look the link over. Thanks for your assistance!











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 01-08-2011, 20:58 Post: 176295
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Sorry, but those single pole relays are not going to allow you create a reversing circuit for your motor. You will need double pole relays to reverse the motor leads.

With the switch you have the 12V + would go to the center switch contact and one coil lead from a relay say "U" would be wired to a open contact on the switch. The other coil lead from "U" would be wired to chassis ground.

The other switch contact would be wired to a coil lead on the second relay say "D" and the other coil lead from "D: would be wired to chassis ground.

Now when the power is on and the switch is operated in one direction it routes power to one of the relays and when you operate the switch in the other direction the other relay will pick up. Releasing the switch it should return to center and no relay will be picked up. If you thinhk this has helped let me know, I can explain the to you how to wire the relays and motor.

One problem the type of circuit you are trying to create is the relay will not drop out as fast as you change directions on your switch. The result is both relays will try pick up at the same time, shorting your suppy voltage to ground. On this type of circuit we would normally interlock the relays electrically, but that is another story.

If I could figure out how to post a photo I'd draw it up and post it.....






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 01-08-2011, 21:13 Post: 176296
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Seeing you are doing a home brew project. Check "Surplus Center" They have an item 11-1569, that will do the complete job for you. Just make sure the relays have 12 volt coils, you could use your swich in place of the pendant if you wanted to, but I bet the 2 pushbuttons are interlocked mechnically to prevent picking up the up/down circuits at the same time. This should help I hope. www.surpluscenter.com






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