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poles in the ground vs concrete footings with anchor
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In N.C. we are required to have the pier below the frost line in case of heaving. Also have to have 1 inch rigid insulation 2' around the perimeter with a 6 mil vapor barrier. New trated lumber must use galvanized bolts and fasteners only. Also required to have Y bracing on posts
1/3 the length of post down from top on both sides. If you have a transit shoot the tops of the piers and you want have to notch or cut posts from a ladder.
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Actually I built one this summer. What I did was to drill 18" holes every 8', then pour the slab to include filling the holes then added achor bolts and finished building as a stick built garage. I have to concern over woodrot not termites eating the wood. Termites will eat the pressure treated wood we have today. Been in the pest control business over 20 years now and I see it all the time. Wood that supposedly would not be damaged by the termites. Anytime to have wood in contact with the soil, you are prone to termites.
Anyways, pouring the slab as a monolithic with the 18" holes is more than enough support for the size building you are putting up. Make sure you check with the local building authorities to make sure they are ok with it.
Lastly, by building mine this way I didn't incur more cost, it actually saved me a little. Especially where lumber cost are right now.
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If you can find any unused containers of Chlorodane (no longer manufactured) and treat the wood and area with it; that would be ideal but otherwise soaking the timbers in diesel fuel for a week or two and the area around the timber in the ground pretty well keeps the termites away. The EPA folks and enviromental advocates won't like it but it works. Just don't get carried away with the diesel fuel around the post part. ;O)
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My home is a 24' by 32'pole barn converted garage. I bought it 3 years ago. I believe the age of this structure is about 10 years old. The poles are every 8 feet apart. The back fill that was once in place against the bottom backer boards has long since washed away and all backer boards rotted away.Causing the gravel and sand that was under the poured concrete floor to wash out from under the edges. Hence....severely cracked concrete running through the interior because of lack of support. Believe it or not, that is not my biggest problem at hand. I am concerned about the poles lasting as long as I plan on living here...which hopefully will be 20+ years.(retired). I had a mason over to look at the structure and asked what I could do to correct my problems. He said he would put a block foundation around perimeter and that should keep the rest of the gravel under the poured slab in place..but offered no advice for the poles or what to do with the uneven and cracked floors. Any suggestions about poles would be appreciated. I was thinking of cutting them at ground level and removing old concrete in holes and replacing with new concrete up to a level above ground and then using brackets to connect poles to concrete. Would this work?? Or should I have mason do this as he lays a block foundation?? Or should I think about just selling the place??? I had hoped to make this my final home(sits on 7 wooded acres of privacy) and was going to start working on remodeling....but am not sure if I should invest if I cannot fix floor and secure poles. PS...I am no Rockefellar...money is tight.
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Are the poles rotting now? Are they UC-4B rated for in ground contact? If so they should last a very long long time.
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