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 12-10-2004, 15:55 Post: 102065
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Use short stainless steel screws and when done, go inside and snap the ends off with a hammer. No extra work needed. No sharp points sticking out. With 7/16" OSB, that is about the strongest hold you will ever get without framing the interior with strapping every 16 OC as others suggested.

A pole barn made of OSB? hmm I thought they all had steel panels.






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 12-11-2004, 05:51 Post: 102082
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If you screw it, I would suggest you use a siding with the
nailing strip attached by mesh, so you can tighten your fasteners. Wolverine is one that I know of. Nailing strip
is atached to the panels with about an inch wide mesh(nylon)? This allows you to nail/screw it tight and the panels can still slide in the groves.
I believe that a screws diameter would be to big for the nail slots to allow movement. The last thing you want is buckeled siding.






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 12-12-2004, 15:07 Post: 102130
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#6 screws are about the same diameter as roofing nails, so they should not be a problem.






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 12-13-2004, 00:02 Post: 102156
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Oh. I think I understand now. Ibrown, I didn't know you already had the problem of the protruding nails, but thought you were trying to avoid it. If it were my pole barn, I would just slap OSB on the interior of the purlins, which would cover the nails in the spaces and give you an interior wall covering. Then I would pull non-sheathed wire through conduit mounted on the interior surface of your interior OSB. This seems to me the easiest, cheapest way to go. Of course, the downside is that you will have visible conduit and surface mounted outlet boxes, etc., but that may be okay for a pole barn. I, for one, would like to hear what you decide to do. Good luck.






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 12-17-2004, 11:47 Post: 102430
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1* I didn't know you already had the problem of the protruding nails, but thought you were trying to avoid it
2* If it were my pole barn, I would just slap OSB on the interior of the purloins, which would cover the nails in the spaces and give you an interior wall covering.
3* I, for one, would like to hear what you decide to do. Good luck.
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1*Actually I was trying to do both.
Prevent others from making the same mistake that was maid on mine and also was looking for ideas on how to correct the problem of the protruding nails in mine.
I think I came up with a way to avoid the problem of the protruding nails when building the building; see my post number 102057 in this thread.
However I haven't totally resolved the problem of the already protruding nails in my building.
2*That is what I planed to do on the left half of the building but I would prefer
eliminating the nails so I can run the wiring in the cavity behind the OSB rather than on the interior surface of the OSB.I also was thinking of insulating the cavity with a spray foam type insulation.
3* I think I will use some sort of a cut off tool to cut off the nails that are sticking through the 2x4 purloins.
As for the siding nails protruding through the OSB I could cut them off also, but I'm not sure that would be a wise thing to do on them as I'm concerned that the cut off nails might work back out of the OSB and loosen the vinyl siding.
Anybody have any ideas on that-Will the siding still stay on tight or not if I cut off those nails.











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 12-17-2004, 15:39 Post: 102445
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What type of nail? ring? length?
If you are thinking of foaming it why bother?
I would put my wiring in first on the inside and then foam it. If you are not putting more than 1 1/2 in. to cover the purlins, I would perfer to bend them over ,with the grain.
You can always cover it in the future.






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 12-17-2004, 18:53 Post: 102449
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If you are thinking of foaming it why bother?
I would put my wiring in first on the inside and then foam it.
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Because there are so many nails it makes it hard to keep the wires out of them and if you try to use conduit you can't get it around the nails.






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 12-18-2004, 05:53 Post: 102468
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It hard to give any advice not seeing your project.
Could you run your wires along the purlins and just
break or gring off the nails that are in the way?
I quess I would be reluctant to break off all the nails.
If you leave them you can be almost certain they won't loosen. And if they ever did youhave something to reset.
If you cut them and they pull back for some reason, you
risk the problem of not having anything to reset as they
may come right out at 7/16 length?
Perhaps if you had a picture or two I could help more.
How much insulation do you need? Could you run conduit on
you 2x4's?






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 12-18-2004, 07:55 Post: 102474
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1*Could you run your wires along the purlins and just
break or grind off the nails that are in the way?
2How much insulation do you need?
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1*No because the inside OSB goes flat against the purlins.
2*1.5 inches from the inside of the interior OSB to the inside of the purlins.
This is also the space I need to run the wiring in, but it's full of protruding nails from the vinyl siding nails.
I can cut off the nails penetrating through the purlins.
I guess I could cut off any siding nails in the way of running the wiring along the top or bottom of the purlins and leave the others. But if I foam the walls and ever have to get into the cavity there is still all those hidden protruding nails to deal with. At least before you foam the walls. you can see where they are but once you spray the foam you've lost that advantage.






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 12-18-2004, 15:37 Post: 102484
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What about using 1 1/2 " foam sheets pressed on over the nails with some foam board adhesive. The wiring could be put on the 2x4's in conduit, or just staple them.
As far as burying them in the wall, just make sure you run plenty of supply. You can always junction box off an outlet. I would bet you never would have to. They are
foaming new and old home here in Maine,covering plumbing and wiring. Have not heard of any problems. How many times have you had to open up a wall to add a pipe or wire ? not very often I bet.






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