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Lets do a survey: How many of you REALLY have two sets of tires for each car AND have them changed out every season.
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Personal vehicles (not fleet stuff & not 'specialty' stuff I only drive a few times a year);
Two SUV's - two full sets of tires and rims.
One car - two full sets of tires and rims.
One pickup - it wears big nasty tires all year round.
We may want to limit this to people who live in a part of the world where we get winter.
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We may want to limit this to people who live in a part of the world where we get winter.
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Yep - I was thinking that would make sense. In any case I am in Ohio so we do get winter
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Yup we get winter here in Deeetroit, not like we used to though. I can remember walking to school in knee-deep snow up hill, both ways. (Let's see if Kenny can figger that out)
In all my years of vehicle ownership I have never had two sets of tires. Winter RIMS, yes, to keep the polished aluminum nice (we use only salt for deicing here)
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Just one set for each, I used to do the two set thing but it got to be a pain.
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Let's see,
Honda Civic wagon (1991 RT4WD version, great car) I think 12 rims. Invested in a new set of rims last year as I was tired of the old rusty set going flat every 5 days. So I am down to 4 rims and tires for summer and winter. I suppose I could dispose of the rusty four at this point.
1995 Jetta, for my wife, 8 rims and tires, summer and winter. Has a pancake spare (I never heard it called that, but I like it) but since those aren't worth a darn, carry a full size from off season. A practice that is a side benefit of the winter and summer set lifestyle.
Full size Chevy G30 cargo van, last of a line of many. Hopefully Latest, though, not last. Tires and rims for summer and winter. Also have full 8 from previous van that was coincident with this one. And then there are at least another 8 under the barn from 3/4 ton vans of older vintage, But those are 5 lug, 15 inch and won't fit on the current van. Things have a way of stacking up as long as there is empty space in a barn..
The BMW R1150R has only one set of tires, not even a spare, but it only runs on thawed pavement.
I know a lot of people, even here in VT, go with all season tires summer and winter. For myself, I have looked at the factors and chosen to go with specialized tires suited to the extremes of each season. It might not be a necessity, but I feel good on the road with them and in the long haul, I don't think it costs me any more.
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2004 Trailblazer and 2008 Chev 1/2 ton P/U. Both have 2 sets. The winters are much narrower than summers and as tall as possible. The TB has directional tires heavy sipes and deep lugs, Tire warehouse wheels tires mounted balanced and delivered $450. The PU used wheels, pressure monitors deep lugs studded heavily siped. 3 Different sources $750. P/U winters are narrow and slightly smaller diameter but closest fit with narrow truck tires. Tires are only on Thanksgiving to Mid March.
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Since we're in the middle of an ice storm that looks like it will last until after Christmas, all the local tire stores are jammed and their phones always busy (maybe even off the hook). There are stories of people lining up at 5 am to wait until they open.
So I went to tirerack.com and they did not have a single tire/wheel package for an 07 Tacoma. Not only that, they didn't have in stock a full set of winter tires in any of the three factory sizes for that truck.
I did find the nokian site, and they make a studdable tire in the right size. So after this ice storm I'll see about ordering a set of those mounted and balanced on a set of wheels from the local Tire Factory store. The stupid TPMS makes it a more expensive proposition with sensors in every wheel. The dealer wants hundreds of dollars just to reprogram the computer after a wheel swap. It makes more sense to put a piece of black electrical tape over the stupid tire pressure warning light.
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Ken I found the tpms things for a chev, they had every type, for 35$. My pick up it took some reading but I remove all valve caps, turn the ignition to on hold in lock and unlock buttons same time horn sound 2x then I walk let air out of tire lf, rf,rr,lr, let air out till hear 1 beep horn move to next tire. Then I refill tires to proper pressure. Only need to let out 3-5 # whole thing less than 2 minutes.
I'll look and find tpms place. I bought steel wheels from a large auto salvage/parts place for $50 apeice they were brand new with spare tire taken off.
Here's the place: http://revolutionsupply.com/
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Harvey; The tire pressure monitor in our Trailblazer has been a joke since it was new. Even with the tires at proper inflation the warning light comes on anytine the temprature is below about freezing. After you drive a half hour or so it goes out. I've always had the utmost faith in the dealer we do business with, but after repeated requests to fix the DXXX gizmo they seem to just shrug it off. OK, now I'm getting steamed, the TB is still under the 3/36 warranty, the thing was maent to work, it don't, why can't I get them to get serious about fixing it??? anybody else have the same thing??
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Hardwood,
I don't know one danged thing about that tire inflation sensor system you have in your vehicle. However, I would like to comment a bit on how they work.
During periods of cold weather, you lose about 1 pound of tire air pressure for every 10 degree drop in temperature. At 30 degrees, this equates be about a 4 pound decrease in tire pressure from when it was 70 degrees.
I don't know how sensitive your air inflation monitor is designed to be. However, if the sensor warning shuts off soon after driving a short distance, this could be an indication that the tire pressure is increasing slightly due to road heat, which is perfectly normal, and expected.
In my opinion, your tire inflation warning sensor system is working correctly. You wouldn't want to put any additional air in the tires when they're cold, because they'll be over-inflated at highway temperatures and speeds.
Joel
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