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 02-03-2007, 15:58 Post: 139521
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For what it's worth this is what the Oklahoma DOT says ...

§14-105. Loads on Vehicles.
(a) No vehicle shall be driven or moved on any highway unless such vehicle is so
constructed or loaded as to prevent any of its load from dropping, sifting, leaking, blowing or
otherwise escaping therefrom, except that sand may be dropped for the purpose of securing
traction, or water or other substances may be sprinkled on a roadway in cleaning or maintaining
such roadway.
(b) No person shall operate on any highway any vehicle with any load unless said load and
any covering thereon is securely fastened so as to prevent said covering or load from becoming
loose, detached or in any manner a hazard to other users of the highway. Any vehicle loaded
with sand, cinders, or other loose material susceptible to blowing or otherwise escaping shall
have such load covered so as to prevent the blowing or escaping of said load from the vehicle.
(c) This section shall not apply to trucks loaded with livestock, poultry or agricultural
products only except baled agricultural products, provided that any such truck shall be so
constructed or loaded as to prevent such livestock or poultry from escaping therefrom.
§14-106. Coupling Devices for Towed Trailers.
Every trailer, or semitrailer, shall be equipped with a coupling device which shall be so
designed and constructed that the trailer, or semitrailer will follow substantially in the path of the
vehicle drawing it without whipping or swerving from side to side. In addition, every such trailer
or semitrailer except a semitrailer drawn by a truck-tractor type designed to draw or support the
front end of a semitrailer, shall be coupled with stay chains or cables to the vehicle by which it is
being drawn which chains or cable shall be of sufficient size and strength to prevent parting from
the drawing vehicle should the regular coupling device break or become otherwise disengaged.






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 02-03-2007, 21:14 Post: 139523
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Billy, thanks for taking the time to type that.

Like I said, how the law IS and how it's selectively ENFORCED are two different things. Here in 'sippipi I see not one in-state dump truck with a tarp. Not only that, they allow built up dirt/sand/clay to stay on surfaces other than inside of the bed like on top of the tailgate, on top of bed rails, on the hitch, on the bumper, etc. Somedays the freeways look like dirt a road with stuff falling off. Some of the guy who have been sued for breaking another motorist's window put decals on the truck to "STAY BACK 300'" and "NOT RESPOSNBILE FOR BROKEN WINDSHIELDS" or "NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ROCKS THROWN UP FROM ROADWAY". Apparently these decals carry a lot of weight, as so many have them. The Lousiana DOT told me that Miss. DOT doesn't enforce the weight rating on a trailer---I've seen (and driven with) guys using a Ford Super Duty to pull a Cat 315 excavator (I believe 40 lb. worth), D4 high track dozers (MUCH bigger than a D4). Decals for their buisness on the truck doors---unheard of. And DOT numbers---what's that? Leaking engine oil and hydrulic oil adds character. Louisiana has a diffeent approach to being oveloaded weightwise: They look at the vehicle's GWVWR placard and compare it to the actual weight. If you're over, no biggie, just pay a $50 or $100 fine! Git-R-Done!






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 02-05-2007, 00:24 Post: 139549
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 What CHP told me on transporting CUT

You think the hauling laws are trouble. Talk to some cops about driving your tractor and implements on the road. Every single one will give a different answer to any question about it. Especially in PA an Ohio where turn signals and head lights at a certain hight restriction are required.






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 02-05-2007, 20:56 Post: 139579
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What about those nuts hauling logs. Crap is flying off the logs in a constant stream. All they have is one little red rag hanging off the longest log. There cannot be very much requirements on log haulers. The up right stantions are all bent out of shape. What a joke.






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 02-06-2007, 00:36 Post: 139585
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SG, it's not a joke and they aren't nuts. Just every day people trying to make a living. All that crap flying in a constant stream isn't going to hurt a thing. It certainly isn't going to knock out a windshield. That little red flag may just be the thing that saves your life. If not, it might be the last thing you see before that longest log comes through your windshield. They're subjected to laws just like anyone else. DOT is constantly checking them.






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 02-06-2007, 09:17 Post: 139588
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SG, have to agree with you on the log trucks in this part of the world. Higher percentage in serious accidents than any other truck last report. Of course different companies have different standards at Harvey has pointed out. Rare to set DOT with log trucks being inspected here.

At same time sure do not understand the truss trucks hauling loads extending over their right side by 6 feet or more feet. Amazing...builder told me they are legal...then laws on agriculture loads are also different I have been told, never heard of a truck load of crop being weighed (other that to sell the grain). Then on top of that it seems our state has very poor laws on lights on trailers (not the semi type, rahter the homeowner version) as so many run around at night with no lights.

EW, the proper way to answer is "yes surr" "no surr". Yous sore is right surr. Or you might be better to hold your hat in hand and just nod politely. As to deciding which laws to enforce, is that not done by all who are charged to enforce laws at all levels, everywhere?

The most dangerous thing I see as to truckers here is the person who has no idea as they pull out in front of one, switches lanes in front of one to stop and such, the weight of that rig and the danger they are placing all in.






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 02-08-2007, 09:37 Post: 139644
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We are getting there. A couple of days ago a NYS Trooper, Commercial Vehicle Unit, aka: Creeper Cop, grabbed a little Ranger pick up with plywood sides loaded waaaayyy above the cab with scrap steel, matteress springs, water heaters etc. The rear bumper was less than 12" from the road.

The P/U sat in a parking area for 3 days while the owner found someone to help him reduce the weight.

Another example of the Troopers trying to make our roads safer.






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 02-08-2007, 11:49 Post: 139649
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Same up here Harvey. There was a big push on a few years back after some duals came off in traffic, to clamp down on big trucks not up to snuff.

After the got that issue straightened out, and got the junk either fixed or off the road, they started to look farther down the list, and rightly so.

I was speaking with one of Provinces top enforcement officers with the Provincial Police, our version of the State Troopers, at an industry trade show and he said they have told the front line officers to focus on pickups starting this year, particularly those pulling trailers, and landscapers and contractors in particular.

He said the will be focusing on safety above regulations, but wont turn a blind eye to a big violation of ANYTHING unsafe.

It's about time, if I have to play the rules, so does everyone else.

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 02-12-2007, 18:33 Post: 139717
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Billy,

Billy I must Disagree. If you drive a piece of crap and do not care what your paint job looks like then those chunks of pine bark should not bother you. Also they are all over the road being blown up by any auto that you are behind. Not to mention the limbs. I dont know about OK, but pulp is a big business here every 10 veichles is a logger. Whether it is the nut behind the wheel, the nut that owns the business, of the nut that will not enforce the laws they need to be held accountable for their debris. Try driving down the road and throw a paper cup out the window in front of a lawenforcement officer (it is made from trees)same a slinging bark all over the place. Why should my paint job suffer so someone else can make money. My trailor has to have tail lights, so hang a light on the end of the log. If you dont think that a pine limb will come through the windshield you need a reality check. I do agree it is not a JOKE, care to count the dents.






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 02-12-2007, 19:40 Post: 139719
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SG: Here! Here! You are 100% right. I mentioned these guys here putting bumper stickers on their trucks about flying rocks and broken windshields---today I saw a new cement truck with a sticker that someone tried to peel off--likley realizing a little sticker ain't gonna protect them from being sued. Come to think of I'm seeing less and less of those stickers---wonder iof the DOT is cracking down on them??






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