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After I posted previously, I got my interest up. The rifle that I was referring to is the Shiloh Sharps made in Montana.
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After the movie "Quigly Down Under" came out the sharps got really popular. Add to that the the long range side bets at SASS and cowboy action shoots they came up with a pretty good demand. Some of theese have some pretty hefty price tags but are truely custom rifles. A bit stout in weight for anthing much other than target shooting. Dave Pedersoli does some nice work but there are several fellows makeing theese now. Have you ever seen any of the custom work done by Doug Turnbull ? You should check out his web site if not. It is top notch but so are the prices.
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AC5ZO, Ruger is making the 44MAG auto carbine again. They have been for a couple years now. Also, they have the 44MAG in the model 77.
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I think maybe you are talking about the deerfield carbine by Ruger. The action looks more like a ranch rifle or mini thirty than like the origional carbine. The origionals are getting tough to come by in good shape.
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Billy,
I haven't looked at these in some time. After Ruger discontinued the original carbine I was interested to see them reintroducing the 44 in some of their new guns. The other problem here is that I must be letting work seriously interfere with my gun research. :-}
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Just caught up with this thread. No one has mentioned my (almost big bore) favorite (to date) - Winchester 94 in 356 Winchester. (Take that .308 necked to a 35 caliber (358 Winch) and put a rim on it so it works in a 94 action). Has been great all around in PA whitetail work with the factory 200 grain. Have a store of factory 250 grain if I ever get a chance to go out after bear. Don't think I've ever seen another 356-chambered 94, although you see a lot of 307's and 375's at the shows.
Tim
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No, it is solidly in the big bore category. I have a Marlin in that caliber and wouldn't hesitate to carry it on Kodiak Island.
Do you reload? There are some interesting data that will launch a 180 grain Speer flat point at 2700 fps.
Assuming the bullet will hold together, that would make a dandy whitetail load.
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I dont usually see too many of theese but I think they are a pretty slick cartridge. For some reason lately I have seen a lot of 375 '94's out for sale. Any cartridge that tosses a 200 grain slug over 2400 fps is at least a Big bore contender in my book. The beefed up '94 XTR was a nice improvement with the ability to mount a scope on a lever Winchester in the traditional fashion. I think Marlin brough out the 336ER about the same time. Maybe ER stands for Emergency Room because anything that gets smacked with one of theese bad bays is going to be in need of a quick trip there. I think Speer makes bullets for theese still and as far as I know winchester is still the only Factory load. A really nice pick for a Big Bore.
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The 180 Speer sounds interesting, only think I had ever seen was the 220 (which I thought I had read at one time was actually designed for this cartridge - so the jacket style/thickness and tip were all set up correctly). Wonder what the ballistics of that "short" 180 would be?
I call my 356 "almost" big bore since it's "only" 35 caliber. Now that .411-356 mentioned sounds interesting!
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Mark, I thought I would post this for you as I know you are a Marlin Fan. I went up north earlier this week to pick up my new 44 mag trapper. A shop I had never been to before. When I got there all they had was a '92 trapper not a '94. So The search went on. I went to Jays Sporting goods and started to look at the lever guns. I noticed that on all the new USRAC there was (No Joke) about 1/2" of trigger creep. YUK! Well I was pretty dissapointed and decided to fondle the marlins for a bit. Now the last marlin I had was about 3 years ago when the 45-70 guide guns first came out and it was not exactly top quality especially the trigger and wood. I looked at a marlin model '94 SS in 44 mag. Marlin REALLY has improved in the last few years. The trigger was crisp without any creep, wood to metal finish was pretty darn good as well. Sadly this one had some blemishes so I decided to keep looking. I also looked at a Cowboy special with a 24" Octagon barrel, very nice but a bit heavy for my needs. I grabbed a Marlin catalog and I noticed they are makeing a shorter (20" barrel Cowboy special this year with the Octagon. I love the Octagon barrel for that "old West" feel. They also have added a 45 colt to the Custom Cowboy action shooter instead of just the 38 special. It seems they have stepped up to the plate. I will never stop collecting antique Winchester Lever guns but for a modern shooter it appears to me that Marlin has USRAC outgunned at the moment. I am leaning towards the Model '94 SS in 44 mag, 20" barrel, sling swivels decent wood and a very nice trigger pull. I also have found SS barrels much easier to clean than Carbon.
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