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Wow, I'm back after a 24 hour heat induced black out hiatis. We are VERY lucky to be back on line as there are millions here with out power. I do have a decent generator system but it was a fuel pig. People for the most part were calm for our area. I had to drive this morning to buy fuel to another area that still had power. The gas lines were miles long. People are driveing hours to buy generator fuel. The stores were mobed on water and batteries immediately yesterday due to the quick news reports and mass speculation of terrorism. There are so many cars abandoned on the road that ran out of fuel it is tough in areas to navigate around them. No traffic lights. My next door neighbors were all nearly killed 10 minutes after the power went out due to someone running a blacked out light at 80 mph. We had to stay up all night and watch for generator theifs. Its not supriseing how fast a laser light bounceing down the driveway will deter someone who wanted to take a 4am look see. I hope all is well for our other members potentially in the black out area. I think Murf, Art White, Cutter and many others might be with out power. I neeed to sell this generator and but a diesel powered one. You could drive right up to the diesel pumps and I was VERY thankfull to have a diesel powered truck. Dave
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Glad everything is OK there. Why not get an LP generator and a 500-1000 gallon tank? The fuel won't go bad and there is no running out for more, just call your supplier and they come out and fill it. Diesel is great but you have to store a lot of fuel for long outages and we all know the fuel goes bad after a time, so it's a use it or lose it situtation.
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Gas goes bad as well. It is just a matter of keeping and rotateing a inventory. My truck and the tractor burn diesel any how. My neighborhood association would not tolerate a tank, honestly I would not want to see one in my yard. Deer camp yes, home no. Remember I live in suburbia not on several acres where I can place it strategicly or landscape around it. I wish I could though as I would go that route if it were reasonably feasable.
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Not gasoline, Liquid Propane gas like you put in the BBQ. LP gas lasts a very long time, but not sure exactly how long. I thought it would last many years.
Ah, suburbia. You could always call the art department at a local college and have some students come out and paint the tank. If they tell you to remove it tell them they can't trample on your freedom of expression!
I detest homeowners associations. There's always at least one person involved who has nothing better to do than to make it a pain to live within the rules.
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"My neighborhood association would not tolerate a tank, honestly I would not want to see one in my yard."
The run on natural gas as well (generate alittle less KW though). DO you have natural gas?
My friend and I went shopping today and he returned that Wacker 9.7kw gasser he bought yesterday for $2795 and got the Generac Guardian propane/natural gas 12kw model for $2650 in exchange. A much better deal with its on housing, auto on and off and it's own panel.
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Natural Gas?
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Ken, yes I understand, LPG + not for me !  . Just due to my home location. F-350, yeah you sure got that right friend. That is why I am going to start looking at the diesel generators though. We plan to move a little north to a sub of 2-10 acre lots verses the 90 x 130 lots here. So I want something portable. The Generac models you mentioned are very nice and cost effective. yes I have nat gas. or gas...naturally !
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Yeah, Natural Gas is probably the best of all worlds even though it does have fewer BTUs by volume. I always forget about NG because we don't have it and probably never will.
I'm curious, though, with a widespread outage would natural gas service be interrupted too? I'm thinking they might have electric shutoffs located along the pipeline as some sort of safety mechanism, and pumping has to happen somewhere doesn't it?
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Nat gas goes down regularly here. Would not be my first choice. LPG was available and all the vendors were open with little to no buisiness, but then no one was in line at the diesel pumps either. The best thing is to be prepared one way or the other. Its really bizare to see a million people caught flat footed and totally unprepared.
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Yeah, the only way to fix the grid is to get rid of it. Every home should be self-sufficient. Fuel cells for everyone!
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