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 04-09-2009, 10:58 Post: 161877
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Ken,

I hope you are following Survival Blog:

http://www.survivalblog.com/

HUGE amounts of great info. and links there.

The Mormon Church "was" selling food storage "starter Kits" but apparently the response was overwhelming so they no longer sell the kits as far as I can find. You may want to try calling one of their storage centers near you and find out if you can pickup in person a pallet load of these starter kits and/or other canned staples.

http://www.providentliving.org/location/display/1,12568,2026-1-4-39315,00.html

I also suggest that you look at the practicality of raising some free range chickens. I got some Game Chickens from a local friend who used to raise them for fighting until it became illegal. They are not the most ideal egg layers or meat birds BUT they can survive WITHOUT a chicken coop and roost in trees at night. They are also veracious fighters and as close as you will get to a wild animal that is still gentle and managable with humans. The hens are EXCELLENT mothers and the roosters are unbelievable fighters that can become a real pain in the butt if you get too many. We do our best to prevent and stop the roosters from fighting but sometimes we don't catch them in time. Usually 1 rooster to 5 - 10 hens works out well.

Another area you may want to consider is bee keeping. In an SHTF situation, where would you get sugar????? One beehive well kept can provide you with upto 10 gallons of honey per season. We currently have 2 hives and I am putting out another 10 hives in a few weeks when the nucleus bee colonies arrive. Honey is EXCELLENT barter material right up there with "ballistic currency".

I recommend a beginners kit and have found Mann Lake makes the best beginners kit at the best price.

http://www.mannlakeltd.com/infopage.asp?idPage=2

I recommend the painted Deluxe Beginner's Kit with the wood frames. A package of bees with a queen sells for about $60 in my area. A nucleus colony or "nuc" sells for around $70 to $90. For the beginner I STRONGLY recommend the "nuc" as it contain 4 frames of brood, honey, about 20,000 bees, and a queen the worker bees have already bonded to. The package bees contain about 10,000 bees and a queen inside a small box within the bee package box that has not bonded with the worker bees.

If you have not already, stock up on some Iodine water purification. Polar Pure is still available but restriction apply due to the DEA.

Hope you stocked up on ammo, powder, brass, and primers because that horse left the barn a long time ago. You can still buy the venerable M1 Garand via CMP and get comparatively cheap ammo but I think this too with come to an end shortly due to overwhelming responses for orders. Last I looked CMP was still selling the M1 Garand in the Service Grade for $595 and HPX Greek ammo in cans of 192 rounds packed in enblock clips and bandoleers for $60. There IS a LONG waiting period due to outrageously high demand though. I think about 3 months now, perhaps more.

Hope this was not TMI. Good to hear from you again! Same to all here! Smile






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 04-09-2009, 11:37 Post: 161879
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I almost forgot to mention some very informative and important groups to have a look at........how many here are "3 percenters"???

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/

This explains better:

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-is-three-percenter.html



http://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/

Go to an Appleseed shoot and learn about what liberty really is. It will change the way you think.

http://www.appleseedinfo.org/






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 04-10-2009, 10:02 Post: 161905
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Randy, thanks for all the good links but you're about two weeks too late. Two weeks ago there was an appleseed class only three miles from where I work So SadI really like the three percenters.



Did you go to the Appleseed shoot? We need all the riflemen and women we can get. I finally joined the RWVA last year. It is a very good group for kids and women and guys to learn who have never shot and even those who have to learn rifleman basics. The more important and interesting part is the history lesson that most people are unaware of.






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 04-10-2009, 11:53 Post: 161911
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No, I missed the shoot because I didn't know about it So Sad



Ken, for future reference, go to the Appleseed Project forum. LOTS of great info. about what is going on there.

Here is a link to the Appleseed shoot schedule:

http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=4032.0

http://www.appleseedinfo.org/as_schedule.htm






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 04-10-2009, 19:57 Post: 161917
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Ken,

I meant to add that these Appleseed Shoots are designed and arranged to accomodate folks so they can participate with pretty much any rifle they bring. That having been said, the preferred rifle and most shooters bring the Ruger 10/22. Appleseed has the list of item to install on the Ruger 10/22 that turns it into what they call the LTR or Liberty Training Rifle.






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 04-11-2009, 01:51 Post: 161924
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Randy, I'm gonna do a shoot. They have a few up north a couple of hours. I'll drag my wife and a few friends up with me. This would be a great cause to participate in.



Ken, I STRONGLY urge you and ALL TP members to attend an Appleseed Shoot. Family member shoot and participate for FREE. The shooting part is just a SMALL portion of the the shoot. The history briefing is the main attraction and something ALL should hear.

I can PROMISE ALL it will be money WELL spent and a VERY enjoyable as well as INFORMATIVE outing for ALL who attend.

I am looking into sponsoring an Appleseed Shoot on my property. I think an Appleseed Shoot will be a awakening for all who attend. Wether you decide to become a "3 Percenter" or not is yet another story.......as are with the important things in life........"one step at a time".






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 04-15-2009, 14:36 Post: 162074
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Ann,

I think you have drawn the ENTIRELY WRONG conclusion.

NOBODY wants to have a peaceful, productive, and community involved and oriented existence more than I do. Wishing for it will NEVER make it happen though. Freedom has NEVER been free and carries tremedous responsibilities and duties.

Ann, the philosophy and "theory" of freedom & liberty is VERY SIMPLE........the freedoms, rights, and liberties outlined in the Constitution, especially the 1st 10 amendments to the Constitution "WE" are ALL born with. They come to us and are endowed upon us by GOD.

The government that "WE" the people created and enabled has the PRIMARY mission and sworn duty of protecting these rights AS WRITTEN in the Bill of Rights and Constitution. The government IS our servant and NOT our master.

The above all sounds great and I would think everyone would support and agree with this......at least I do. Where in lies the rub is that MANY of us who have been endowed with these great liberties and freedoms have chosen to ignore and omit the GREAT RESPONSIBILITY that comes with GREAT FREEDOM.

Less than 40% of the eligible citizens even bother to vote. Most of these voters are politically and situationally TOTALLY IGNORANT. Hence, since the turn of the century starting with President Taft who proposed a national federal income tax and excise tax, on through Woodrow Wilson who presided over a totalitarian "progressive" (read fascist) reign of terror and abuse followed by 16 years of FDR who took this to new levels. We now find ourselves so willing to accept ideologies, ideas, and conduct on the part of the government that in long past years would NEVER have been tolerated. This national/geopolitical cancer has slowly advanced and metastasized to the outrageous and out of control government we now have (see the frog in the cooking pot theory). This is NOT a republican or democrat thing as the republicans and democrats are pretty much versions of the same thing. In recent times our last republican president set new standards of abuse and oppression propogating his vision of liberal fascism.

The thin thread that our constitutional representative republic hangs is unbelievably fragile. All we have to do is rewind the tapes to New Orleans after hurricane Katrina. This combination tragedy/attrocity is STILL on going so long after this event. So soon we forget how civilization collapsed and even the police were looting, people were committing all manor of horrible crimes, and guns, ammunition, and food stores were being confiscated (read robbed at gun point) by police and other government officials.

Another example of how fragile our civilization is would be the Rodney King riots.

I don't think ANYONE here is advocating armed uprising or violent government overthrow or ANYTHING of that nature.

What I am saying is that apparently MANY people of ALL political stripes and ideologies ARE VERY scared. They ARE buying unpresidented amounts of survial/barter stores of various types, gun, and ammuntion. WHY??????? My thoughts are that I think it is PLAINLY apparent that MANY people are convinced that our society and its government are TOTALLY out of control, out of touch, and have grown to become of the thinking that "they" are unaccountable.

Ann, I could fill up pages about what I am talking about but I think it would be best to recommend to you a few books to read that may awaken another point of view in your mind. Have a read of the following books:

Liberal Fascism by Joanna Goldberg

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

Common Sense by Thomas Paine

http://www.amazon.com/Common-Rights-Essential-Writings-Classics/dp/0451528891/ref=pd_sim_b_17

Patriots: A Novel of Survival in the Coming Collapse by James W. Rawles

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/156975599X?ie=UTF8&tag=survivalcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=156975599X

Jim has a very INFORMATIVE blog that I HIGHLY recommend that is geared primarily towards self sufficiency and preparedness.

http://www.survivalblog.com/

Have a good read of the above and I think you just may come to another opinion.

I want to still believe that America was founded upon and STILL seeks rugged indiviualism and self reliance. This certainly does NOT mean that we have no obligation or duty to help one another and our neighbors out. This help MUST come from WITHIN and of our OWN FREE WILL......NOT forcibly imposed by corrupt government terrorist thugs.






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