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 04-03-2009, 20:34 Post: 161701
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We have always used canned foods for our emergency supplies but lately I've been thinking that freeze dried would be a better way to go. The info I've read says it doesn't need to be rotated and is very tasty.

The problem is that on the internet it seems like nearly every site is pushing foods of a particular brand and I haven't found much in the way of information that seems objective.

Is anyone here familiar with the various brands and which might taste better or be a better value?






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 04-04-2009, 16:38 Post: 161712
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AlbertaDan, thanks for the info on MREs. The advantage of freeze dried as I understand it is that the shelf life is much longer (up to 25 years) and MREs cost about twice as much per meal.






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 04-06-2009, 11:22 Post: 161769
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Murf, I considered doing it myself... for about 30 seconds. Just don't have the desire or time to do that.






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 04-09-2009, 08:31 Post: 161866
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Hey, chicken and eggs sounds like a tasty backup supply. Thanks for the idea. Just have to get enough of them to share with the coyotes. Maybe the chickens will draw coyotes to provide a steady supply of coyote meat. Anyone ever eat a coyote? We could just sit on the deck and wait for the deer to wander by too.

Dennis, I don't think freeze dried canned foods have a bunch of preservatives in it but need to check. That said, I've been eating preservatives my whole life so it's probably better to eat a few preservatives than to die of starvation.







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 04-09-2009, 10:27 Post: 161874
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I'm looking to buy it once and leave it on the shelf for emergencies rather than having to rotate stock all the time.

We almost never eat canned foods and buying a bunch of it and having to eat it before it goes bad is not appealing. The only canned food we normally buy is tomatoes.

Going mobile is not really an issue, we'll dig in here as needed. It's a pretty defensible area with a steep cliff on one side and a single road going by on the other. We're on a well with a fresh water creek for backup. A six month supply should do it.






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 04-09-2009, 23:20 Post: 161900
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Randy, thanks for all the good links but you're about two weeks too late. Two weeks ago there was an appleseed class only three miles from where I work So Sad

I really like the three percenters.






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 04-10-2009, 11:11 Post: 161908
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No, I missed the shoot because I didn't know about it So Sad






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 04-10-2009, 23:34 Post: 161923
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Randy, I'm gonna do a shoot. They have a few up north a couple of hours. I'll drag my wife and a few friends up with me. This would be a great cause to participate in.






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 04-15-2009, 12:45 Post: 162070
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The first thing that happens when there are mass civil disturbances or natural disasters is that store shelves quickly empty. If they aren't replenished on schedule due to breakdowns in transportation (fuel shortages, driver strikes, drivers staying home to protect their families) the shelves may stay empty for awhile.

I was in LA during the Rodney King riots. Brain dead rioters in big areas of LA burnt down their local banks and grocery stores so citizens scattered across the city to find food. In El Segundo, where we were, there is one grocery store, a Safeway - the lines were wrapped entirely around the store, cops were metering how many people could go in at a time and people waited a day to get in while the shelves quickly depleted. We got out and drove to San Diego for two weeks to escape the madness. If there is widespread civil disturbance and many major cities are in the same situation what are you gonna do?

Although we are interconnected those connections can break down quickly. Hasn't that happened throughout history? I'm sure many who said "it can't happen here" were proven wrong.

If you disagree, maybe you can look at it this way - buying food ahead of time helps to keep people employed.






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 04-15-2009, 12:57 Post: 162072
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There are people who would rather die than be enslaved.

And then there are those who wouldn't.






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I cut this out of an editorial by Paul Rahe on Foxnews.com and it seemed appropriate for the objections that Ann presented. A link to the article is below.

Tocqueville, born in France in 1805, grew up in the shadow cast by the French Revolution and Napoleon Bonaparte. Where others among his contemporaries looked forward to the rule in France of a technocratic elite armed with authority conferred by a nominally democratic regime, Tocqueville feared that the modern democratic tide would eventuate in something much more ominous: the establishment of a “social body”–that is, a government or other kind of governing elite–intent on exercising foresight with regard to everything; on acting as a “second providence,” nourishing men from birth and protecting them from “perils”; and on functioning as a “tutelary power.” Such power might render men “gentle” and “sociable” in such a manner that “crimes” would become “rare.” Crimes would become rare, in this scenario, but virtues, too, would become rare.

Under the rule of this “tutelary power,” Tocqueville foresaw that the human soul would enter into a “long repose.” In the process, individual energy would be “almost extinguished”; and, when action was required, men would “rely on others,” and not themselves.






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 04-16-2009, 12:52 Post: 162095
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To be clear: Our freedoms, rights and liberties are NOT endowed upon us by God, but by man. Travel to (say) Nigeria and see how many of these "God given" rights evaporate. An official in one of these countries couldn't give a rat's arse what rights you had when in the US and neither would his government.I often see this specific rhetorical statement and it's patently false. All rights are bestowed by man in societies governed by laws, no law = no rights. No degree of belief in God will bestow rights (here on earth) on man. God makes no guarantees for any of us.



The fact that Nigerians have no rights doesn't refute the fact that Nigerians were endowed with rights by God, it just means that governments and thugs have taken them away. If a person lived alone in a natural state with nobody to bother them they would enjoy all the rights that God gave them.






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