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Tom, my buddy had a similar situation where he welded a rear gate on a trailer similar to yours for a loacl landscaper. The landscaper sent his helper to pick up the traler and used the wrong ball size. Trailer came off the ball, hit a family and killed three. Long story short, my buddy's portion of the 3.2 million dollar jury award was $920,000. His insurance company refused his claim as he wasn't insured for manufacturing.
Not saying you did this but you may not have had the trailer locked on the ball--I have done this where the trailer looked like it was over the ball BUT wasn't-- then I "locked" it. I've pulled my bobcat trailer 60-70 miles once this way, and my fully loaded 15,000 lb. dump trailer a few times not realizing it. In both cases it was the great amount of tongue weight that kept them on.
The there was the time 4 of the 6 hitch bolts broke off the truck while pulling the loaded dump trailer...w-h-o-a-a-a-a!
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Excessively high speed---yup---I agree--didn't want to be the first to say it.
And fishtailing---I agree, it wasn't set up right weight distributionwise. Any trailer set up correctly will follow like a dream at any speed--even if illegal and irresponsible.
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Trailer comes off at 75mph
I had a pintle come loose 25 years ago on an empty fuel tank trailer. Luckily my dad was following and flashed his headl;ights at me. I was driving a dump truck and couldn't hear nor feel it hitting the rear. Though the truck and hitch were new and I was just a 16 y.o. kid then, even then the pintle setup for locking the ctach didn't seem robust or even well designed or made. My feeling then as it is today is perhaps that drivers inherently see the pintle as carrying a lot of tongue weight and thus "safety" is disregarded for the need to keep the latch locked.
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Trailer comes off at 75mph
BA did you have that "funny feeling" when you backed over your PTO without disconnecting it the other day? tehehehe
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BS...er...BA, lemme bring ya up to speed, son: I have been back since March of '07--gone for a year and a half. That's a year and a half I'll never get back!
$90! I bought one from TSC new for $50--they had a bunch that got separated from the implements and were more than happy to off them cheap. I'll sell it to you for $85 plus shipping. Not.
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GG: Maybe next (if there is a next time), take the tractor off the trailer, hitch the trailer to the tractor and load the truck. Then yer off! My 33hp hydro NH can easily pull a fully-loaded 15,000 GVW trailer.
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I've pulled many a trailer into/out of backyards where I couldn't get a truck with my medium-size backhoe. Just hooked the safety chains together and hooked them to the BH bucket teeth.
Shoot, you could even pull it backward with a hole for the hitch ball in the front bucket (I did that too ONCE but pulled the ball clean out of the bucket since I couldn't keep the attitude of the bucket to the trailer correct)
Anywho... seriously though, I read about a guy up Murf's way that welded a hitch ball to the back of his BH bucket and installed a tow bar on the front of his pickup. What he would do is drive the backhoe to the job with truck in tow. Once at the job, and done for the day he'd leave the backhoe there and drive the truck home.
And having a ball on the back of a BH bucket is not only handy for placing trailers in/on/over obstacles to keep thieves at bay, but it's handy for hooking a chain or rope onto.
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"Who in the right mind as a newby member of this site would ask this to a member who has been on here since the site began?"
Answer: The SAME guy that insists you need a machine heavier than the dump trailer to pull it in turns.
How utterly obsurd, misinformed and irresponsible.
But I'm jis' sayin'
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Unlike your situation, gravity wasn't part of the equation with Mr. Paul.
Buuuuut if you had brakes on the trailer you would be extolling the virtues of a CUT---I gotta think. Yes?
But I'm jis' sayin'
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Yup Harvey and that's why our roads are so torn up. And those (Murf cover your ears) Canadian trash haulers which can haul 100 cubic yards. Some steel haulers (I think) have sometimes 9 axles.
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Trailer comes off at 75mph
Murf what I was getting to was due to the extremely heavy trucks--foreign or domestic--they are tearing up the roads. It's been within the last 7 or so years that the State drastically increased the weight limits.
I live off a 5-lane highway (US-24) where the roads are sunken from truck traffic--think ruts. This road is nearly a hundred years old and over a foot thick just in concrete and asphalt--in some places even thicker. Where the trucks make their way to the landfill--from Canuckistan--the roadway is actually bermed up from making turns with all that weight.
Just yesterday another contractor and I were discussing this same issue and he mentioned one of his buddies was cited for being 18,000 lb. overweight! It's not uncommon to see gross weights placarded on cement trucks of 130,000--that particular truck is rated for 9-cubic yards. He's been pulled over so many times by the Weigh Master that the owner had "9 LEGAL Cubic Yards" painted on the cab to discourage such stops. These front-unloader trucks are the ones that run the big super-singles all around, all-wheel- drive, and 5-axles.
My pickup is considered "commercial" and as such the lowest "Elected Gross Weight" license plate I can get is a 24,000 lb. which costs $491 a year. And it's going up next year.
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I'm not up on what the costs are to commercial vehicles crossing the bridge and using our roads, or vice versa.
Never really thought about it, nor has anyone I've spoken to about it like local authorities or other contractors. I guess the assumption was Canadian CV got to use our roads for free.
I'm all ears! And I'm sitting down. 
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Murf: "Accruing"--do you mean amoritize (amortise, eh?)?
Murf, in practice (or practise ) those extra axles have been shown to set up a vibration frequency which has the effect of pulverizing the roadway. I believe it was Michigan State U. that did the study. It was on TV as an expose'.
When I was going back and forth to New Orleans from 'sippi, the LA Motor Carrier Enforcement said they were citing commercial vehicles if they did not have fuel reciepts. 'sippi said they don't enforce it. It's all a big tangle and jumble of laws that overlap and some that don't. Some enforced; some not.
And it bears saying that during and after a disaster, the Feds can request states suspend certain DOT laws/regs. After the request expires then staets go full bore to revover lost revenue. I gots the t-shirt!
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Kenny, in SC so far as education-spending goes, what do you think has been happening to the funds that should have been going to teach (or "learn ya'll" as you'd say) english, spelling and grammar? Or, maybe they're relying on good-natured Yankees to step up to the plate and learn ya on venues like dis.
Gotta love me--'cause you can't shoot me. Well, OK, you can but...
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Wow that reply didn't take you long---what a month and a week? I forgot I even wrote that.
Glad I put a smile on yer face. This daaang Yankee IS good for something after all (though I knew it all along)  .
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Just so EVERYONE ELSE is up to speed, Murf's referring to an email I recently sent him about a nice, $1250 skid steer-mounted hydraulically-powered snow blower for sale locally (to me) I found on Craigslist.
My bad (sniffle)
Being the NICE guy I am, and the tightwad Murf is, I thought he'd really appreciate the lead (read: jump and down with glee). Buuuut, sadly, I was wrong. 'parently Murf's got soooo much money that he'd rather pay MORE in-season. 'round here, we have a saying that goes: "NOBODY buys a boat in the spring (or you'll pay more than in the fall or winter).
Man, if I had feelings they'd be hurt--I'm jis' sayin'.
I'm o o ok (sniffle) k k k kay (sniffle). I'll be in my (chat) room.
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Wow Kenny you are full of surprises--when did you learn how to proofread (or for that matter, read? tehehehe)?
Ooops my "Freudian slip" was showing Maybe I was thinking: "jump" off a cliff and fall "down"--so "up" wash't in my forethoughts.
The OTHER meaning would have been "jump and down with glee", yeah that's it,
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Dangit Kenny, it's LOOSE (pronounced luce) not LOSE (luze). Say it with me, 'k?
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You gotta be kidding!
Your butt may get "saved" (until you get sued) but what about the other innocent drivers/passengers that could be hit by it? That's why we have trucking laws.
I have a buddy who was held 1/3 responsible in a $3 million jury-award due to a landscaping trailer he worked on coming off the truck's hitch and killing someone.
His part of the lawsuit was $980,000--and his insurance would not cover it.
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Glossary: PAD means Personal Attack Deleted by moderator
Here we go again. Yet another [PAD] who says whatever they want and present it as Truth with absolutely no basis in fact, or experience, nor logic let alone responsibility or accountability.
This would be funny if it weren't so sad.
Moark, if I take your ill-formed statement at face-value (think: like any good prosecutor would) you're telling me you can doing any damned illegal and immoral thing you want and hide behind the so-called corporate veil AND think that the insurance company will pick up the pieces.
[PAD]
BTW, should anything happen even remotely like what you have described and you're involved, about tow chains and trailers and someone gets maimed or killed [PAD]--there's something in the Law called Public Domain and your IP address--which you are on right now---and buddy you're virtual "finger prints" are all over this thing. [PAD]
So now you have gone from "simple negligence" to "intent"-- as in "voluntary man slaughter"--of which there IS NO defense.
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