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 06-26-2006, 13:26 Post: 131382
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A year or two ago I watched a TV special on the travel channel that showed a passenger train that went from Toronto all the way to the B.C. coastline and showed the scenic route through the mountains and over gorges on tressel bridges, etc. The show indicated that the trainline was being shut down since the rail network was being closed. It looked like a great trip to see all the scenic views/vistas and not hassle with anything or anyone. It was expensive and mostly "blue hairs" traveled it.






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 06-26-2006, 15:01 Post: 131386
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I think what they meant to say, or did but you mis-understood, was they are discontinueing the coast-to-coast passenger train.

The luxury train was very expensive, and took far to long for anyone but tourists and retirees.

Candian Pacific Railway still service in the west only on it's famous luxurious train, a 6 day tour of the Rockies, or fly-fishing tour will set you back a little over US$6,000 per person.

By comparison, Toronto to Vancouver on a 'regular' train, with private sleeping accomodations (it's a 3 day trip) will set you back about US$2,000 for the first person, about US$750 if you have a spouse with you.

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 06-26-2006, 19:28 Post: 131391
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I believe that VIA rail the Canadian counterpart no longer has a continuous train from Halifax to B.C. You have to use the coach from Montreal to Toronto. You can do it for as little as $1500 each.
I did the Prince Rupert to Toronto and Vancouver to Toronto more than 30 years ago. The Prince Rupert B.C. to Jasper AL trip is excellent, as is the Vancouver to Banff. The prairie and northern Ontario can get quite boring as much of the senery is similar. The CP rail route along lake Superior is much better than the CN route.
There is another tourist train running the route, but takes 17 days and is not VIA. This is from 3500 to 7000 like Murf said and one way. A bit like a cruise on rail. I guess you could spend 14K and two months on the train. After 11K miles on the rail you would know you had been somewhere.
There is a tour that runs up Vancouver island, takes the Ferry to Prince Rupet and then connects to the train. It runs to Jasper and then bus to Banff. And then train back to Vancouver. To me this is the best tour for the dollar.






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 06-27-2006, 08:03 Post: 131413
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It's a marketing scheme, a very confusing marketing scheme.

They merely renamed a bunch of the trains. The "Canadian" used to be a cross-country line, now it is only Ontario and west.

To cross the country, Halifax to Vancouver, you have to take the "Ocean: line from Halifax to Montreal, where you switch onto the {"VIA 1" service to Toronto, where you again switch onto the "Canadian" for the Toronto to Vancouver portion of the trip.

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 06-27-2006, 08:17 Post: 131415
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17 days or 2 months sounds like a long train ride. Bet you get "rail legs", similar to "sea legs" after that long of a trip. The scenic views they showed on that travel channel show were awesome. It does sound like a good tourist trip for retirees.

I think this trip needs to be put on my someday list of things to do.






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 06-27-2006, 10:36 Post: 131430
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My grandfather retired in 1966 and we moved to northern B.C. from Toronto that year. He basically took the train every year from Toronto to B.C. from that year once a year until he was unable. After a few years it was much cheaper to fly, but he liked the trip and seeing the country.
I have done the B.C. to Toronto 3000 miles 6 times 4 by car and 2 by rail, or 12 one way trips, but have never been to the Maritimes only through Quebec.

I have been across southern US twice or 4 one way trips and never saw any wild life from the US 10 and 20. I certainly think the trip across the Canada is something to see. I would rather do it than a cruise. You can only get so close to the scenery and wildlife on a boat.

Even after 4 days on the train you get rail legs. I can remember rocking after getting off the train. The trip is split up so I am not sure you would be as wobbly.






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 06-27-2006, 10:42 Post: 131432
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The train trip through the east is fantastic, the train passes through both unspoiled wilderness, and quaint little towns.

The one thing that a lot of tourists comment on is the wildlife. A number of years back I flew to Halifax and met my cousins arriving from Ireland, and we all took the train to Montreal and looked a round a bit then another to Toronto. It was awe inspiring to all of us. It was hard to tell which direction to look there was so many animals and such beatiful scenery.

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 06-27-2006, 12:03 Post: 131437
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Peters:
From your bio, I thought Northern AL meant Alabama but from this and other discussions was wondering why you were so knowledgeable about Canadian stuff. AH! Some of us, well me, in particular are slow sometimes.

Most Americans (U.S.) don't have a clue how unspoiled the Canadian wilderness is. Allot of us think Michigan's U.P. is remote. Not even close.

I'm told our US 2 is a nice drive for a two lane highway. As you get into Western North Dakota and beyond you will see some wildlife, but not to the extent of that in Canada.

When I get some time, I'd like to go out on US2 and head up to Calgary for Banff, etc. and then come back thru Medicine Hat, Moose Jaw to Thunder Bay and come back through Sault Ste. Marie. That's a 3 week trip which is hard to get away that long at a time and lots of driving. Don't know if I can spend that much time in the car/truck with my wife. May need another vacation after that one.






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 06-27-2006, 13:39 Post: 131439
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YP,

In reading the conversations about traveling in Canada and then your line on driving I had already decided I would have to wait for my grandson as my wife would be bored! But not before the afternoon of the first day. Laughing out loud

You know, guess we could carry a cat..






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 06-27-2006, 13:52 Post: 131443
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I like to drive a while, then hang out for a day or so and then move on. That way you can find the good points of interest at various places.






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