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 09-29-2003, 10:02 Post: 65063
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Tom, it sounds like what you want is a small agricultural irrigation-type pump. They are getting hard to find, but 2" PTO driven pumps used to be common back in the 'old days' when all you had to drive them was an 8N or a Farmall or Cub.

It should be easy enough though to rig up a large centrifugal pump to be PTO driven however it might not develop the pressure you want, especially if you have to pump uphill very far.

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 09-29-2003, 10:06 Post: 65064
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Bill, a regular concrete mixer can be easily converted to #3pth mount & PTO drive.

In fact if you ask around some of the rental yards they often have old drums which have been replaced because of the buildup from not being washed out properly, they can often be had for next to nothing.

The hookup is relatively simple, any competant welder can do it in a few hours, the drive is accomplished by having the drum rest against a small rubber tire which is driven by a PTO shaft carried between two bearings.

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 09-29-2003, 11:59 Post: 65074
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There are ready made, 3 point hitch, concrete mixers on the market. Go to Notrthern Tool.com and look up part # 250816






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 09-29-2003, 14:34 Post: 65081
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Bill, the best PTO Cement Mixer is made by Teagel in England they are imported but not cheap. I like the idea of being able to dump the mixer at height. I would like one to fit on the FEL but have not collected enough pennies yet.






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 09-29-2003, 14:37 Post: 65082
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The only 3pt grapple I have seen was the ag-krane. Was this who you had seen?






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 09-29-2003, 15:06 Post: 65084
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That Ag-Krane looks like a nice piece of equipment but YOWSA, you'd sure need lots of front ballast to do the maneuvers they show on their web page.






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 09-29-2003, 16:10 Post: 65089
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Nobody is disputing that these things exist, I think I was misunderstood.

In my original post I used the term 'reasonably priced'.

There are many very useful, well designed & manufactured implements out there. The problem is that the large majority of them seem to be VERY expensive for what you get.

The grapple and the cement mixer are two examples of this.

What I am talking about is making up such devices using mostly 'off the shelf' parts but put together as 3pth or FEL-mounted, PTO-driven implements which are AFFORDABLE for the average user.

As an example, a friend just bought a 3pth/PTO brush chipper, it is an excellent unit. However, it is only 6" (maximum, in reality 4" on average material) capacity with no power feed and it cost a little over $3,700 before tax, etc.

This is basically a big steel box with an inlet and outlet chute and a big heavy flywheel/fan combination plate containing a couple of planer knives.

Likewise, a PTO cement mixer costs a nearly triple what a COMMERCIAL unit with it's own gas engine costs.

Everybody deserves a profit at what they do, but everybody deserves access to quality equipment at a reasonable cost also. Lack of competition should NOT affect prices.

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 09-29-2003, 16:13 Post: 65090
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Ken, maybe that's why they don't show the front of even one of those tractors on their website.

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 09-29-2003, 18:31 Post: 65098
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Murf;
I am not sure what you term commercial. Certainly any small mixer that I have seen brick masons use are a lot more money than the mixers I have priced.
The PTO mixers are more than the small residential mixers which are similar in design. A lot of the price is related to the inclusion of the hydraulic top link.
I could see how the Teagle type could be cheaper, but you need to find a source for an inexpensive transmission. I don't think you need that much power for the drum.
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 09-29-2003, 18:34 Post: 65099
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Murf you are right on with the prices being to high.

I can make the grapple from scrap steel a 8" hyd cylinder 2 hoses with connectors a few bolts and some welding.

I can make the wood elevator also along with the custom splitter.

Too many times it seems easier just to buy something that cost 2X more than it is really worth and still have to modify it for your particular use. Worse yet have to fix it because it was made so cheezy to start with.






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